[XsltAnalyst]

This review just felt like a pr video, just like his initial M4 test drive video.

Chris Harris's video was a lot more balanced and subjective, so don't think we'll learn new information about the driving dynamics from majority of the low budget reviews.

[willjames]

Joe is good to be fair and mostly keeps it real, he will state if he doesn't like something, not completely biased. He started out chauffeuring in his 7 series and then moved onto Youtube videos and it's still relatively early days for him. He does have a relationship with Tony Lewis at BMW Berry in the UK and he is BMW fanboy (like all of us) but has reviewed other cars such as Audi, Merc and Porsche. I think he is trying to expand the cars he can review. He also has a website called Ctrl and Shift selling T shirts etc.

Each to their own but I like them...by the way did I mention he's 6ft 4"

[solstice]

He does seem to have reasons to be biased. That said when compared to other BMWs it shouldn’t matter that much.

[TEGRITY]

I already have the hard wax / coating applied and thinking if I should have gone with PPF instead. The colour is HS and planning to keep the car for a while. Any suggestions?

[AlexFL]

I think he genuinely likes this car

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

I think he genuinely likes this car

That is the impression I was getting as well. His likes seemed authenticate and the points of concern or dislikes seemed genuine as well.

[///M///]

Ofcourse he loves it. Why would anyone hate in a car they just bought I’ll wait to drive one myself before passing judgement.

[adc]

Absolutely love those seats. And they keep the ladies legs separated, as it should be.


Here’s to hoping my wife doesn’t read this post. And that I can install a pair of these in my F80...

[e92ben]

Originally Posted by Transfer

I think that's the first video of his that I appreciate. He's definitely right about the TB2 paint. Great spec on the car overall but that paint is as bad or worse than black for micro scratches. It's beautiful on my M340i but it's all scratches when the sun hits the side at the ride angle. I wouldn't do it again on a daily, especially with the up charge.

Hey a paint correction and a nice coating and you won't have issues.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by CityLife

I've been back and forth on this car so many times, even watching this video at the beginning I was getting excited about maybe going M3/M4 again, but by the end I was no longer feeling it. It isn't so much the grill or transmission/lack of DCT, but 12 years of being in a variation of a 3 series (335i, 328i MSport, F80 M3), there isn't enough here to get me excited, maybe it is just general brand fatigue. I can see how this car could get people who are new to the brand excited. If I had skipped on the F80 I probably would have gone with this car.

Wait for the G80/82 CS or G81 Touring (if you're outside the US)

[MD707]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I don't bother watching his videos anymore chiefly for that reason

He's trying to 'make it' in Youtube world and a nice bloke. But I agree, I don't watch a lot of the reviews anymore as they're pretty much a Berry BMW marketing activity. Props to him, though - worst jobs out there!

Originally Posted by PKthePM

I already have the hard wax / coating applied and thinking if I should have gone with PPF instead.

Mines going strong with a year of Labocosmetica, no swirls or scratches to report. Mind you I am the only one who washes it. I have film on the rear bumper lip to protect the load area but you can see a hard edge and I'm not a huge fan. Needs must. I think Joe is overdoing it a bit, the colour is fine if looked after. Though i'd have the M in black, only colour to hide its face.

[CityLife]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

Wait for the G80/82 CS or G81 Touring (if you're outside the US)

I'm in the US. If the touring was available, that is something that would definitely be unique enough from my last three BMWs and would have been something I likely would have purchased.

The car I am leaning towards is a 992 GT3. To me it is perfection as is, but I am seeing other people who have owned several 911s and GT cars criticize the car for various reasons including the rear wing, it is very similar to what we have seen on these forums regarding the progression of the M3/M4 from previous generation owners. When you are new to a brand or model you tend to see it from a different perspective, and I think that is the case with the G80/G82. The car looks completely different with a fresh set of eyes. I really think this car is going to bring in people from other brands, and I am not saying it is based on a specific region they are targeting, I just believe the same value proposition is still there on the G80 vs the competitors in the same price range. I can also see people looking to upgrade from another BMW that have yet to experience an M3/M4 looking at this to be the perfect step up.

[TEGRITY]

Originally Posted by G21-M340i

He's trying to 'make it' in Youtube world and a nice bloke. But I agree, I don't watch a lot of the reviews anymore as they're pretty much a Berry BMW marketing activity. Props to him, though - worst jobs out there!

Mines going strong with a year of Labocosmetica, no swirls or scratches to report. Mind you I am the only one who washes it. I have film on the rear bumper lip to protect the load area but you can see a hard edge and I'm not a huge fan. Needs must. I think Joe is overdoing it a bit, the colour is fine if looked after. Though i'd have the M in black, only colour to hide its face.

Cheers for that. Of course, I am the ONLY one who washes the car, it's almost a sacred ritual for me although, I want to swap the OEM film to a bigger size next to rear wheels and install the loading area protection film. But a few local wrap shops have said that I can't until I remove the hard wax coat for the the film application and then reapply the wax again.

[drgmt]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

I think he genuinely likes this car

He genuinely likes freebies from BMW.

Doubt you will ever get to hear what he thinks about this car or any bmw.

He's a yes man. Picked specifically to market the car under the cover of "objective car reviews".

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by drgmt

He genuinely likes freebies from BMW.

Doubt you will ever get to hear what he thinks about this car or any bmw.

He's a yes man. Picked specifically to market the car under the cover of "objective car reviews".

hear hear

[OSee]

Originally Posted by CityLife

The car I am leaning towards is a 992 GT3. To me it is perfection...

1) You’re the first person I’ve met who is cross shopping a non GTS/CS/CSL M4 and a GT3.

2) You should be doing a lot more than just leaning the GT3s way. You should be keeled over

3) it’s like comparing the new McDonalds Quarter Pounder, which is a 100000x better than the original to a A5 Wagyu

4) no offense to the G8X (I’m buying one after all) but the GT3 is a purpose built tool. Not an everyday car and not in the same league.

[CityLife]

Originally Posted by OSee

1) You’re the first person I’ve met who is cross shopping a non GTS/CS/CSL M4 and a GT3.

2) You should be doing a lot more than just leaning the GT3s way. You should be keeled over

3) it’s like comparing the new McDonalds Quarter Pounder, which is a 100000x better than the original to a A5 Wagyu

4) no offense to the G8X (I’m buying one after all) but the GT3 is a purpose built tool. Not an everyday car and not in the same league.

Haha yeah, I guess I look at car ownership a bit differently than most. I don't necessarily look at the purchase price of the car, but I look at the total cost of ownership with depreciation being the biggest expense. I do not drive much at all, 2500-5000 miles a year, so maintenance is not a big issue. I take uber, walk, bike etc. The depreciation on a GT3 is in the same ballpark as an M3, so I have been cross shopping them. However, I usually only have one car. I would be using the GT3 to run errands and driving daily in the city. My main concern is clearance and potholes. The M3 is a hassle free car that I wouldn't need to worry or think about where I am going each day.

[emix84]

Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier

Another perspective is that ceramic pro is worth the expense because you'll have "a factory new TB paint job" right up to the last day of ownership.

Does it protect it from stone chips as well?

[MD707]

Originally Posted by emix84

Does it protect it from stone chips as well?

No. Need PPF (the plastic film) for that.