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      04-11-2021, 01:22 PM   #463
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Went down to BMW of Riverside, California to pick up a X5 for my wife and man the showroom there is spectacular. They have 7 individual G80's and 2 have sold already for 20k over MSRP. They have an Urban Green G80 M3 comp that I would gladly replace my Frozen blue M3CS with. The car looks so damn good I can't stop thinking about it. I may just go pick it up tomorrow but not sure I want 3k per month in car payments right now. The other Individuals are Purple silk, Mint green, Signal green and I can't remember the others. Hit up JR and he may able to get you a deal. Tell him Andrae referred you.
Will they do MSRP deal ? CANT believe I just said that ? Dear budget gods please pardon me and do not punish me for saying I will pay MSRP !
PM sent. Reach out to him today. He says today is a good day to call him.
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      04-12-2021, 09:40 AM   #464
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Members get $500 off on a lease, $2500 on a purchase.

https://penfed.truecar.com/

if youre a member...click the 'get started' tab.
I'll have to check up on PenFed again when TrueCar starts letting us option the AWD models. Hopefully it's still in time to cancel my current deposit if the difference is significant.

With the discount and deposit I currently have down with my dealer, I would pretty much end up in the same place as the PenFed offer now, assuming BMW FS keeps the current 0.99% financing deal. I noticed on the current non-AWD models they're anticipating $1000 off MSRP, which is slightly better than the offer I have in discount off MSRP when you factor in the PenFed $2500 incentive. When you spec'd your M4 base, did it show that large a % discount online or did the dealer offer that when you finally got in touch with them?

I noticed USAA stopped using the TrueCar buying service. I sold my 335is through them once (experience was so-so), but I've never actually pulled the trigger on a purchase through any of them.
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      04-12-2021, 10:58 AM   #465
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I was on the fence about this after a bad experience in another brand of car with braking assist. It does look like you can turn if off with a single button though which is nice.

I want to know more about the Traffic Jam Assistant. I tried to use it during my hour+ test drive but could never get it to activate...
I'm decided I'm sold on the Driver Assistance Professional if solely for the Adaptive Cruise Control. This last weekend we went on a 600 mile drive in our Grand Cherokee which has ACC. I never like using a system like that at speed (rarely even use regular cruise control), but when the highway speeds were dropping down to accordion near stop and go due to slow downs, it was great to just flip it on, set the cruise to 80 MPH, and it always kept a good distance to the car in front of me. Was a great way to relax my legs.

All the Traffic Jam Assist must add is the lane keeping assistance to the formula. Which is a fine additional "nice to have", but I certainly wouldn't use it in every day driving because I don't like the idea of maneuvering around something and having my steering wheel fight me. But ACC is great for long drives, which I'll plan to do plenty of in my G82.
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      04-12-2021, 12:41 PM   #466
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I was on the fence about this after a bad experience in another brand of car with braking assist. It does look like you can turn if off with a single button though which is nice.

I want to know more about the Traffic Jam Assistant. I tried to use it during my hour+ test drive but could never get it to activate...
I'm decided I'm sold on the Driver Assistance Professional if solely for the Adaptive Cruise Control. This last weekend we went on a 600 mile drive in our Grand Cherokee which has ACC. I never like using a system like that at speed (rarely even use regular cruise control), but when the highway speeds were dropping down to accordion near stop and go due to slow downs, it was great to just flip it on, set the cruise to 80 MPH, and it always kept a good distance to the car in front of me. Was a great way to relax my legs.

All the Traffic Jam Assist must add is the lane keeping assistance to the formula. Which is a fine additional "nice to have", but I certainly wouldn't use it in every day driving because I don't like the idea of maneuvering around something and having my steering wheel fight me. But ACC is great for long drives, which I'll plan to do plenty of in my G82.
ACC is awesome, not being able to get that was my biggest hesitation with going 6MT rather than comp. In truly stop/start traffic it's a bit of pain, people just end up cutting you off the whole time, it doesn't react as quickly as you normally would yourself so everyone just gets pissed at you (at least in the Bay Area they do) but where there is some traffic on a long road trip or something it's great. Particularly if you have kids screaming in the back or something, it's nice knowing there's another set of "eyes" on the road.

Traffic jam assist beefs up the lane keep assist at slow speeds, so it will actively steer for you. Lane keep does sort of half assed steering and will give up after awhile, traffic jam assist it will actively steer the car so you can be truly hands off (at least for a time). I'm personally not a big fan, my wife's Audi has it and it will constantly misread the lane markers and so you end up fighting it the whole time
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      04-13-2021, 07:58 AM   #467
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      04-13-2021, 12:07 PM   #468
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I've decided to hold-off until the 2022s are announced.
Just curious, any reason you decided to hold off until MY'22? Are you also waiting on AWD?

I can't remember, when do we expect the flip from MY '21 to '22?
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      04-13-2021, 12:35 PM   #469
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Just curious, any reason you decided to hold off until MY'22? Are you also waiting on AWD?

I can't remember, when do we expect the flip from MY '21 to '22?
Primary reason, possible updates to interior color choices (holding out for Tartufo with M Carbon buckets).
But secondarily, I'm hoping for an M3 Touring (sports wagon). I know, that one is a long shot.

I believe builds in July-forward will be 2022. But with delays related to the chip shortages, sounds like things are in flux.
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      04-15-2021, 07:42 AM   #470
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Interesting thought I had last night...there has been a luxury brand run on Costco auto program the last few months...Volvo/Cadillac at the end of 2020, now Audi ending 4/30...anyone think BMW could be next starting May 1? That last time they did it was last 2019 I think. Could be some help on the way for M discounts?
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      04-15-2021, 10:23 AM   #471
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Has anyone in Texas Gotten a Good deal. This state loves its Taxes on leases so i'm trying to calculate it and get the best deal. Was offered 7% off but didn't have my F80 sold. Now that i have the F80 Sold i'm looking to get a good deal but Texas taxes suck and are up front.
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      04-15-2021, 12:24 PM   #472
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Pricing on these is insane. Spoke to a few dealers in NJ- no one is going below MSRP.

Min discount I would accept is 7%. I guess I'll be waiting for a few months.
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      04-16-2021, 01:37 PM   #473
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Pricing on these is insane. Spoke to a few dealers in NJ- no one is going below MSRP.

Min discount I would accept is 7%. I guess I'll be waiting for a few months.
Same here in NY. 10k over msrp. What a joke! I’ll be waiting and don’t mind waiting till next year.
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      04-16-2021, 02:45 PM   #474
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It's amazing the difference in deals. Some people are getting 7-9% off whereas others are being forced to pay over MSRP. I guess it makes me feel ok in the middle getting about $2k off
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      04-16-2021, 04:13 PM   #475
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It's amazing the difference in deals. Some people are getting 7-9% off whereas others are being forced to pay over MSRP. I guess it makes me feel ok in the middle getting about $2k off
If anyone in NJ is getting 7-9% off hit me up
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      04-16-2021, 05:41 PM   #476
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If anyone in NJ is getting 7-9% off hit me up
You have to go the broker route, but even those allocations are getting thin... you'll have to wait a few months. Most off on an M3 was about 5.6% and I got 9% on an M4, but that dropped to 8% since my order. Seeing many people's status stuck in 112 and build weeks moving up. "Everything seems to be getting crazier every day with chip shortages, suspension pieces not it stock, certain wheels becoming unavailable".

I'm waiting to see what the build week will eventually be. Becoming more probable I'll just wait a month or two more for the AWD.
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You have to go the broker route, but even those allocations are getting thin... you'll have to wait a few months. Most off on an M3 was about 5.6% and I got 9% on an M4, but that dropped to 8% since my order. Seeing many people's status stuck in 112 and build weeks moving up. "Everything seems to be getting crazier every day with chip shortages, suspension pieces not it stock, certain wheels becoming unavailable".

I'm waiting to see what the build week will eventually be. Becoming more probable I'll just wait a month or two more for the AWD.
8% off msrp before options or after? What dealer? I was happy with my 4%..8% off is just a phenomenal deal.
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8% off msrp before options or after? What dealer? I was happy with my 4%..8% off is just a phenomenal deal.
You were lucky to get 4% from most dealers. That is 8% on full the MSRP as built, including D&H. Just check the marketplace forum on Leasehackr.com and you'll find different brokers. They have Google sheets showing the discounts on various models.
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8% off msrp before options or after? What dealer? I was happy with my 4%..8% off is just a phenomenal deal.
You were lucky to get 4% from most dealers. That is 8% on full the MSRP as built, including D&H. Just check the marketplace forum on Leasehackr.com and you'll find different brokers. They have Google sheets showing the discounts on various models.
ah on a lease, 8% off?
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Update: Bmw of San Diego

No mark ups on the m3/m4 current inventory and custom orders. They have both m3 and m4 today. Just left the dealership. Won't budge on discounts. They will give incentives only but no dealer discount.
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ah on a lease, 8% off?
Shouldn't matter to them, but yeah. Seems a good dealer or a fleet dealer can do 7-9% off on M4 and slightly less on M3.
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ah on a lease, 8% off?
How you pay is up to you. It's the same for a purchase or a lease. You also get any incentives on top of that... whatever BMW is giving, (Loyalty, etc), PenFed, etc.
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So, my care is being sent to the east coast and I'm on the west. All shipping quotes are at least $2500 bucks, which eats into any discount I've received.

How have people in similar situations dealt with shipping?

I've considered driving cross country, but that means a flight, finding an XPEL place near the dealer, waiting days, then driving for 40+ hours. So not much saved there either.
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So, my care is being sent to the east coast and I'm on the west. All shipping quotes are at least $2500 bucks, which eats into any discount I've received.

How have people in similar situations dealt with shipping?

I've considered driving cross country, but that means a flight, finding an XPEL place near the dealer, waiting days, then driving for 40+ hours. So not much saved there either.
and worse, if there is damage between the time it arrives at the dealer and the time it arrives at your place, then there is that mess.

Do get an enclosed shipper and I did have a great experience with Intercity - pictures are here https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1148871&page=3

and finally - as you have noted, a great reminder to others on here saving big dollars but getting the car delivered elsewhere - it is a bit like getting screwed on a trade in - do you really want to deal with all of the hassle to save $X? Only you can decide!
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