[AlexFL]

Just buy a Bronco Raptor. Ok, ok, just joking...

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by IanW555

Deposit down, cannot wait to get this, I wonder if delivery will actually be in '22 or '23? 😈😈

Lucky!

[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Why? So it can sell 12 units? This is the same with the enthusiasts that beg for manuals, a car company offers one and nobody buys it.

Porsche execs said the same thing about the 6MT option in the last GT3. They wanted to axe it thinking no one would buy. Luckily they rolled the dice and it turns out we here in America care about that sort of thing and our manual take rate was over 70%:

https://www.autoblog.com/amp/2021/02...ual-take-rate/

Also, didn't Audi just successfully bring back the RS6 last year? I think many people are underestimating how popular a wagon m3 would be here, especially if it had a manual option.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Why? So it can sell 12 units? This is the same with the enthusiasts that beg for manuals, a car company offers one and nobody buys it.

The 80 V60 Polestars slated for the US in 2015 sold out before any of them even reached our shores. Cadillac needed to sell 5 CTS-V wagons to make their money back, and ended up selling 1200 over it's lifespan. These represent tiny sales figures for sure, but that's the point. These cars are special to enthusiasts, and should only come here in small batches.

The M4 GTS is a good example, even if not exactly the same case study. BMW didn't keep the lights on with its sales, but do you think anybody who bought one cared? Of course not. It showed that BMW cared about a small group of its enthusiasts. It wasn't a car I was even remotely interested in, but I appreciate that they made and sold it. An M wagon would be a similarly awesome gesture. A small run of 50-100 here would be perfect. Keep it exclusive, just for wagon fans.

Not to mention, Audi, Porsche, And Volvo are still bringing performance wagons to the US, and so was MB until recently, although they aren't bringing E63 sedans here either because of supply line shortages. Short of that, we'd probably still have E63 wagons for sale here.

[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Why? So it can sell 12 units? This is the same with the enthusiasts that beg for manuals, a car company offers one and nobody buys it.

I had a manual CTS V Wagon. I'd buy this in a heartbeat if it was available in Canada. (Currently driving a manual M4)

The perfect setup would be an AWD with manual. I'd trade my M4 in immediately. It would be amazing.

[bayarea328xit]

Like watching someone eat cake while starving -- damn!

[jct_m3]

Let's just say if they did bring it over…. question to my self is if i would make the switch.

part of me is like absolutely- but i feel like i'd get bored of it - i'd rather an X4 M


Looks mean af don't get me wrong.

i hope they do bring it over tho

[Moupe]

I'm still not warming up to the nose of the G8x's but I'd gladly sell my F31 to get one of these if it ever came stateside! I could get passed the looks simply because it will be a badass all-rounder.

[marcw]

The only way anyone is going to get close to this in the USA is by building it yourself like David did.

https://instagram.com/touringm3?utm_medium=copy_link

https://www.touringm3.com/build

https://youtube.com/c/TouringM3

[xdrive_320i]

Originally Posted by Nettles

Essentially a flex. It's a very niche segment for customers in the states. Most who say they want one will never buy one. Realistically if you can drop ~$80k-$90k on one car are you really going to buy a performance wagon? The forum is a very small sample size of all customers.

Funny you should ask! That's the one type of vehicle I would buy (if I could afford it) since it's the best combination of practicality, handling, and looks. Obviously, SUVs ride high and don't handle as well. And sedans might not have enough trunk space (but for most people they work fine).

I was seriously considering a VW Golf Sportwagen or Alltrack since you can get 6MT + 4MOTION + wagon + IS38 turbo swap and have yourself one of the best all-round vehicles money can buy! Especially for the ~$30,000 they cost in the current market.

But I agree that wagons are a niche in the states and are severely underappreciated for what they offer. If only we didn't have an SUV/crossover addiction!

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by Nettles

Essentially a flex. It's a very niche segment for customers in the states. Most who say they want one will never buy one. Realistically if you can drop ~$80k-$90k on one car are you really going to buy a performance wagon? The forum is a very small sample size of all customers.

Yes I would. In a heartbeat. It's very niche, but when has that stopped anyone from buying a car??

[t$]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

I had a manual CTS V Wagon. I'd buy this in a heartbeat if it was available in Canada. (Currently driving a manual M4)

The perfect setup would be an AWD with manual. I'd trade my M4 in immediately. It would be amazing.

i think unfortunately theres 0% chance theyd offer awd + manual since they dont do it on the g80/82. We can dream tho and while i want to say id buy one thats probably the only configuration id actually be interested in -- normally i hate on awd but this would be the ultimate car to take skiing

[TEGRITY]

Yes, I am going to talk about the grill. Patience please.

I don't like it and hasn't grown on me either. But G8x is a blast to drive, which I totally agree. That is a tough spot to be for people like me who don't like the design but love how the car drives!

But on this wagon, the grill is PERFECT!!!!! It matches the shape and size of a wagon.

IMO, BMW should have launched the wagon first with these new grills and it might have eased the change fatigue for most people who don't/ didn't like it.

Looking forward to seeing this in flesh and taking it for a spin.

[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by t$

i think unfortunately theres 0% chance theyd offer awd + manual since they dont do it on the g80/82. We can dream tho and while i want to say id buy one thats probably the only configuration id actually be interested in -- normally i hate on awd but this would be the ultimate car to take skiing

It's good to dream though…😊 I'd still buy it if it was RWD and manual.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by Patton250

I wish one of you could explain to me what you could possibly see in a station wagon sports car? I truly truly truly don’t understand it. Please help me out. The Brady Bunch mobile only faster?

I have three kids and need something bigger than a sedan to fit everything in for daily life and family road trips.
I would like to be driving something more fun than an SUV on road trips as they often go to places with twisty roads.
I currently have a G21 330i and have a deposit down for the first G81 allocation my dealer gets.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Originally Posted by AGAV13

I know it's beating a dead horse, but please please please bring this to the US.

Originally Posted by Mako

This is just teasing to us in the US, would love to trade in my X3M for this. Lower weight, center of gravity and almost same cargo room.

Will it have CF roof? Wait I don't want to know.

Exactly fellas. Words can't describe how much I wish they would bring this to the US.

[xmanpro]

Looks fast

[keanu1]

Can. Someone explain Why is M3 touring so late? I dont understand this. 3 series is due to Facelift . Another 3 years and the New model will come. This means that the lifespan of the M3 touring will be 3 years, maybe 4

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Just buy a Bronco Raptor. Ok, ok, just joking...

Would not mind one as my Dailey. Except I'm addicted to Grand Cherokees for that duty. On my fourth one :

[330d Beast]

No rear window heater… must be a U.S. spec car 😆

[little Bastard]

I'm not a car engineer but why they have to test this car in the arctic again? The M3 and M4 are already tested in the arctic and the 3-series touring too.
BRING IT ON, NOW!!!

[jeloz]

Originally Posted by IanW555

Deposit down, cannot wait to get this, I wonder if delivery will actually be in '22 or '23? 😈😈

Congratulations! Me too!
Look at its Arches!!

Mid '23 in Sydney is the estimate.
I'm switching back to BM!
Wagon to Wagon - currently in an '18 RS4.