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      08-29-2020, 03:18 AM   #23
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It's not even the grill anymore I just don't like the way they designed the lower fascia.
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      08-29-2020, 03:33 AM   #24
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These aren't promotion videos made by BMW...lol
Thats not a leak ? lol
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      08-29-2020, 04:22 AM   #25
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I can't wait to get my hands on one.
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      08-29-2020, 05:44 AM   #26
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As the Kübler Ross grief cycle goes, once folks get past the acceptance stage of the larger size and the front grille, a boat load of M3/4 loyalists will buy these.

Engine note sounds exciting. I'm shooting for an M3 "Pure" myself.
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      08-29-2020, 07:16 AM   #27
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Y'all going to get past the grill after a test drive cause it's still BMW and one of the few company who puts effort in the driving dynamics.

I got a loaner BMW 8 speed yesterday and yes at full send it really did not respond like my DCT but what I hear in this video sounds not too bad If we get 80% of the dct's performance it will do it..

PS: I don't like the grill
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      08-29-2020, 07:28 AM   #28
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Wow, seeing them beside older BMW cars, they really look huge

Nice driving from the test drivers though
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I'm tired of talking about the grills so lemme focus on the sound: it's a low flat note that I hope they improve. Right now it's just meh. Please note that adding burbles does not "improve" anything

I actually got excited with the soundtrack at 0:49 until I realized that the prototype was following a Porsche
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      08-29-2020, 10:41 AM   #30
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The turn haven't quite come yet but the ohh it's growing on me comment are slowly trickling in.
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I'm tired of talking about the grills so lemme focus on the sound: it's a low flat note that I hope they improve. Right now it's just meh. Please note that adding burbles does not "improve" anything

I actually got excited with the soundtrack at 0:49 until I realized that the prototype was following a Porsche
So much debate about exhaust note and engine sound. It's been revealed to the world for over a year now.
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So much debate about exhaust note and engine sound. It's been revealed to the world for over a year now.
The x3m is a good directional base but there are going to be differences between the suvs and the cars, It will not be copy/paste. the M3 and M4 necessarily have different length system as well as a different muffler design to fit them specifically. How different bmw tunes the sound remains to be heard....
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      08-29-2020, 11:38 AM   #33
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The F82 M4 looks so much better! BMW what are you doing??
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      08-29-2020, 11:54 AM   #34
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You might be right but that M4 is the size of a land yacht the dimensions just seem all wrong to me...just way too long for my tastes.
Then get an M2 and move on
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      08-29-2020, 01:42 PM   #35
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Disregarding everything else, still sounds like a wet fart in a tin can.
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      08-29-2020, 02:21 PM   #36
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Disregarding everything else, still sounds like a wet fart in a tin can.
Lol. I agree. It sounds just as bad as my F80 M3. BMW needs to redesign the turbos to make it sounds better. The M340i sounds better than the M3 IMO.
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Wow, seeing them beside older BMW cars, they really look huge

Nice driving from the test drivers though
Yeah, but that's expected. Ever see an F30 M-Sport parked next to an E46 M3? It made the E46 look tiny.
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      08-29-2020, 03:07 PM   #38
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The S58 doesn't sound like the S55 relax.
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      08-29-2020, 03:09 PM   #39
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Then get an M2 and move on
That is what I have�� and loving it.
But I thought this was a forum and one could express ones opinion... apologies my bad.
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This is just my opinion:
It is a pity that this is happening to the most iconic BMW model. I don't see anything BMW in this car, I do see an "Instagramable" car. A car that will sell for the hype of the controversy. For thinking it's a step forward when it is, at best, just a step aside. It is not an evolution. It is the stepping out of the line that was being drawn over the years, without need for that.
It seems to me a design made by laziness, stealing from here and there: Rear lights of a Lexus, headlights of a Giulia, grill badly stolen of the 1930s, and a lack of respect for the aggressiveness that an M3 / M4 must have. The front bumper is a joke. There is no intelligent air opening, no aggressiveness, no "WOW" factor for those who see it through the rear view mirror. It's just ugly.
Of course it will sell. It will sell because it is advertised as a step-up, as a break in the routine. But it is not. It's just pathetic. Its ugly. It's disrespectful. It's a 2020 car, unfortunately: Egocentric, influencer and spoiled by his parents.


But it has a spectacular engine.


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I'm starting to learn how to look past the big ass front grill.
The cars look exciting! Maybe it's seeing nice paint versus CAMO.
They do look better in real life.

Picture taken last weekend when I was at the 'Ring.
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      08-29-2020, 03:55 PM   #42
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They do look better in real life.

Picture taken last weekend when I was at the 'Ring.
I love that hood.
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      08-29-2020, 03:59 PM   #43
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Cool video, but I view the sliding and fighting for traction negatively. Let'a hope this testing helps fix that.
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So much debate about exhaust note and engine sound. It's been revealed to the world for over a year now.
Can’t say this sounds great to my ears after hearing a friend’s X3M Competiton. Just not a pleasing note to listen to. And the fake, synthetic burbles don’t help - rarely do they do a car justice either.

I need to see the car in person, but it looks big. 5 series sized. I am not a huge fan of the grills in pictures, but I’ll wait to see them in person. If this car is going to tip the scales at 3900-4100 lbs with AWD though, that is probably more of a deal breaker for me.
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