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Looks like I'm not going to get that F30 340i ZHP after all just to get a manual transmission. I'll save a few more pennies and just get the G80 M3. I'm glad I waited although I'm apprehensive about the cost.
For those that might know, is it still good practice to wait a year or two after the M3 is released like the regular 3 series? Without fail, the first year or two of 3 series always has a lot of little annoying issues. Is it not like that for the M3 since it's largely based on the regular 3 series? Or are there other issues the M cars face even though their platforms are a bit more mature? Last edited by upsidedownfunnel; 10-26-2018 at 04:06 PM.. |
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base model S GT GTS GT3 GT3RS ? does this make sense.. ? if so.. then... base model Competition model (not packet) CS CSL should make some business sense.. in other words.. WHY MAKE PEOPLE WAIT TWO YEARS into production for a comp model when you can sell a comp model the entire time.. " MO MONEY.. MO MONEY.. MO MONEY.. " Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 10-26-2018 at 04:10 PM.. |
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The X3 M, X4 M, X5 M, M8 coupe, and M8 convertible all debut and go into production by mid-to-late next year for MY2020. The X6 M will arrive either at the time of the X5 M or in 1H 2020, and the M8 Gran Coupe will come around that timeframe as well. There is even the possibility of an X7 M in 2020 as well. Quote:
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There is nothing compelling enough in your conjecture to conclude that BMW simply cannot/will not start production of the G80 in late 2019 or early 2020 for release in the first half of 2020. They will do what they need to in order to time the product release where it makes sense in the market. |
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Any chance of a DCT?
My recollection is that the DCT was supposed to die with the F series cars...I am still holding out hope for the G series.... I want no part of a ZF....
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Perhaps that was just conjecture, but I thought someone @ M had said that was the plan.
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https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/bmw...ithin-a-decade " In the past, the shifting speed of a DCT was much faster and the other big advantage is weight - it’s much lighter. We can do the same shifting times now with an automatic and also weight reduction is also something where we made good progress.” Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 10-26-2018 at 04:34 PM.. |
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I want to do things myself on track, I don’t want the car to do them for me. It’s why I skipped the Mitsubishi Evo and stayed with BMW. No RWD and manual means no sale for me.
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yes lets choose the most expensive production option lol
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I was just reiterating this new structure as so many people are new to finding it out.. specifically as well for @chongo who was at a loss for why BMW would have a business case for going to a multiple model hierarchy as opposed to option packages Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 10-26-2018 at 04:41 PM.. |
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For us that use it like it was designed, for street and track use, AWD would make a lot of sense... sure it weighs a little more but it'd make a lot of sense. The only downside would be weighing 150lbs more... but the added performance, especially in the winter and when wet, would make it a no-brainer for a year-rounder performance and fun car. |
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I don't see the point to spec this car with a MT when the sales account for single digit %.
Plus as someone has already said, these cars are always performance optimized with the more advanced drivetrain anyways. The gearing on the MT is never optimal and always run taller to hit fuel economy targets. Weight savings are minimal in as well (about 1-2%) if you want to shift use a paddle... |
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No. I would still chose RWD any day
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I would take the lighter, more nimble car.
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