*El Primero M3C Xdrive on H&R VTF Has Kit Review*

LukeM15 · 12-06-2021, 09:06 AM

I wanted to give you all a review on the H&R VTF Has Kit on a AWD M3 since no one else has yet. First and foremost I was skeptical just like everyone else since most of these kits were made when the RWD version was released. Knowing that a few others went the MSS and KW route, but I knew these were very similar so the install wasn’t going to have any hiccups.

Thankfully, I can safely say that these are good for the AWD. It provides lots of adjustments front and rear. The only thing I noticed is that these will definitely go lower on a RWD car as the AWD sits higher. There are no noises or vibrations with these and most important they aren’t bouncy.

I will mention that this could be an issue for some (not me) is that the dampening settings now have changed. During stock form I’ve always rode in sport and now with the H&R comfort it feels like I’m in sport all the time. It is now 1+ as it was before, it’s not an issue but I thought I should mention that.

For those on fence don’t hesitate these are GOOD! I’ll let the pictures do the talking.

Car is on 12mm spacers.
Fronts are almost at limit, rears are halfway.

mike@x-ph.com · 12-06-2021, 09:32 AM

Looks great

Vic55 · 12-06-2021, 11:11 AM

I love the stance, great overall sinister black mean ass look.

anyone who thinks a stock g80 height is ok has optic issues (I joke... a little)

ny2nj · 12-06-2021, 12:11 PM

Awesome. That drop looks good!

ROBERT1183 · 12-06-2021, 01:24 PM

Looks great!! Very sinister all black. Hows the ride compared to stock.

LukeM15 · 12-06-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Looks great

Thanks bro 😎

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vic55

I love the stance, great overall sinister black mean ass look.
anyone who thinks a stock g80 height is ok has optic issues (I joke... a little)

Thanks bro! Hahaha I know right stock height

Quote:

Originally Posted by ny2nj

Awesome. That drop looks good!

Appreciate it

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBERT1183

Looks great!! Very sinister all black. Hows the ride compared to stock.

Very similar just a tad stiffer nothing that compromises anything tho. Drives great

yousefnjr · 12-09-2021, 07:33 PM

Looks great, that last shot is money. Is that the MP front lip?

LukeM15 · 12-10-2021, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Looks great, that last shot is money. Is that the MP front lip?

Thanks. Yes it is

CodyAXM · 12-13-2021, 09:13 PM

Looks tough. Thanks for sharing!

Patton250 · 12-13-2021, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeM15

I wanted to give you all a review on the H&R VTF Has Kit on a AWD M3 since no one else has yet. First and foremost I was skeptical just like everyone else since most of these kits were made when the RWD version was released. Knowing that a few others went the MSS and KW route, but I knew these were very similar so the install wasn’t going to have any hiccups.

Thankfully, I can safely say that these are good for the AWD. It provides lots of adjustments front and rear. The only thing I noticed is that these will definitely go lower on a RWD car as the AWD sits higher. There are no noises or vibrations with these and most important they aren’t bouncy.

I will mention that this could be an issue for some (not me) is that the dampening settings now have changed. During stock form I’ve always rode in sport and now with the H&R comfort it feels like I’m in sport all the time. It is now 1+ as it was before, it’s not an issue but I thought I should mention that.

For those on fence don’t hesitate these are GOOD! I’ll let the pictures do the talking.

Car is on 12mm spacers.
Fronts are almost at limit, rears are halfway.

Freaking wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NashvilleM2 · 12-19-2021, 01:33 PM

Is this lowered all of the way down?

Trying to decide between these or KW as I am very unhappy with my AST springs.

Patton250 · 12-19-2021, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NashvilleM2

Is this lowered all of the way down?

Trying to decide between these or KW as I am very unhappy with my AST springs.

What’s wrong with the AST springs?

NashvilleM2 · 12-19-2021, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patton250

What’s wrong with the AST springs?

They are way softer than stock so it makes it feel more like a base 3 series. Sport plus with the AST springs is what comfort feels like on stock suspension.

And because of that you hit the bump stops quite a bit. They provide a great drop (maybe a bit too low) but the performance is completely lost.

LukeM15 · 12-19-2021, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NashvilleM2

Is this lowered all of the way down?

Trying to decide between these or KW as I am very unhappy with my AST springs.

Fronts have about 3 turns to be fully set.
Rears are only half way.

Patton250 · 12-19-2021, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NashvilleM2

They are way softer than stock so it makes it feel more like a base 3 series. Sport plus with the AST springs is what comfort feels like on stock suspension.

And because of that you hit the bump stops quite a bit. They provide a great drop (maybe a bit too low) but the performance is completely lost.

I don’t have time to mess with this type of crap then. Ill pass. Thanks man

LukeM15 · 12-19-2021, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NashvilleM2

They are way softer than stock so it makes it feel more like a base 3 series. Sport plus with the AST springs is what comfort feels like on stock suspension.

And because of that you hit the bump stops quite a bit. They provide a great drop (maybe a bit too low) but the performance is completely lost.

I can tell you the H&R gives you a tad stiffer ride but not in a bad way. I have zero complaints.

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LukeM15 Captain 560 Rep 991 Posts Drives: M3 G80 Comp Xdrive Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Maryland iTrader: (4)	*El Primero M3C Xdrive on H&R VTF Has Kit Review* I wanted to give you all a review on the H&R VTF Has Kit on a AWD M3 since no one else has yet. First and foremost I was skeptical just like everyone else since most of these kits were made when the RWD version was released. Knowing that a few others went the MSS and KW route, but I knew these were very similar so the install wasn’t going to have any hiccups. Thankfully, I can safely say that these are good for the AWD. It provides lots of adjustments front and rear. The only thing I noticed is that these will definitely go lower on a RWD car as the AWD sits higher. There are no noises or vibrations with these and most important they aren’t bouncy. I will mention that this could be an issue for some (not me) is that the dampening settings now have changed. During stock form I’ve always rode in sport and now with the H&R comfort it feels like I’m in sport all the time. It is now 1+ as it was before, it’s not an issue but I thought I should mention that. For those on fence don’t hesitate these are GOOD! I’ll let the pictures do the talking. Car is on 12mm spacers. Fronts are almost at limit, rears are halfway. Attached Images Last edited by LukeM15; 12-06-2021 at 09:20 AM..
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