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      04-19-2021, 12:36 AM   #89
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Of course they use frozen dark grey as the launch color now I'm not getting one
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      04-19-2021, 12:38 AM   #90
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      04-19-2021, 01:45 AM   #91
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      04-19-2021, 02:15 AM   #92
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Anybody notice the dark stripes on the rear bumper of both models? Is this new for 2022 or maybe only on the M xDrive models?
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Anybody notice the dark stripes on the rear bumper of both models? Is this new for 2022 or maybe only on the M xDrive models?
Do you mean the vertical line min the middle between the exhausts? Other than that I can't see a difference?
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      04-19-2021, 02:20 AM   #94
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Do you mean the vertical line min the middle between the exhausts? Other than that I can't see a difference?
Yes - the diffuser is split with a line and two darker strips on either side. This appears different than the regular Competition model.
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Closer shots show it's just the CF package rear diffuser. The darker strips look to be a reflection of the road. It does stand out in the photos though.
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Tough decision. $4100 is steep, but a 500hp+ car isn't complete without it.
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By "it" I was actually referring to Audi's Quattro as being consistently named by random drivers as what they believe the benchmark 4WD system on the market is; not to M xDrive vs regular xDrive (I've since edited my post to eliminate the potential ambiguity). I'm probably unaware of most subtleties of M xDrive myself and have just assumed here that its 2WD/4WD switchable drive alone already makes it special enough for BMW that they won't put the regular xDrive badge on their M cars.

And yes, I was actually going to name Audi as a prime example of how to use a well-established brand (i.e. Quattro) for selling vastly different technical solutions, then realized BMW themselves are already using the xDrive brand for quite different systems technically and philosophically... But why then the badge omissions on the M models equipped with M xDrive? Might it be one of the other potential reasons I've mentioned?
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You're confusing Audi Quattro with quattro.

Quattro with capital Q is the famous 80s coupe.

quattro is the AWD system.
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you can technically still order one, I did back in Feb/March and put a deposit down. my build is slotted for August right now since I have their very first G80 AWD.
That's awesome! Trying to explore similar - Did they give you a build slot / production number?
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So no xdrive logos on rear, interesting there is nothing to show the specific version (like Porsche adding "4" to model)
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Just a detail:

You're confusing Audi Quattro with quattro.

Quattro with capital Q is the famous 80s coupe.

quattro is the AWD system.
I'm aware of that nuance, I just refused to overlook the grammar rule requiring brand names (which are proper nouns) be capitalized in regular writing (as opposed to trademark legal writing, marketing writing, graphic writing i.e. logos/badges...) just for the sake of Audi's caprice Having said that, I will give xDrive more leniency and spell it with a lower case X because it's obviously a made up proper noun (as opposed to quattro) and then it almost already is capitalized anyway

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4100 is right at that amount that makes a lot of buyers pounder.
Im not a big badge guy by any means but was glad to see there wasn't an extra xdrive badge on the car. Curious to how others care about that? Would you feel like you would want some extra badge to show you have the awd model?
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4100 is right at that amount that makes a lot of buyers pounder.
Im not a big badge guy by any means but was glad to see there wasn't an extra xdrive badge on the car. Curious to how others care about that? Would you feel like you would want some extra badge to show you have the awd model?
They should just add a badge that says "+$4100" since, let's be honest, that's the point of a badge. Hell, if they made adding the MSRP of the car as a badge an option, I bet a good half of buyers would check the box.
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      04-19-2021, 08:49 AM   #105
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It's Santorini and is noted as such in the studio.
Then they don't know either. They say Mexico in their FB post (not even sure if it's the same vehicle, but the plate number is the same).
The marketing ad car photos in brochures and social media have the same plate I think. Maybe photoshopped. I remember the same plate was on a few cars in F8x brochure
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      04-19-2021, 09:01 AM   #107
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Until they lose range after the 6th stoplight.
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Am I reading correctly that the Yas interior will have black accent vs the current Yas with SPY accent?
No, even with the RWD that was already the title for that interior option
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GTR boys about to be sad.
They haven't redesigned the GTR car since the Bush Administration. That should upset them irrespective of what BMW is doing.
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Amazing engineering. It will surely be great to drive.
But some questions:
. With this kind of weight and size, is it not growing into an M5 ? Just look at the dimensions and weight of the past M5s
Are you fine with such an evolution ?
. Why such a heavy car ? Of course M engineers can do wonders with the chassis, but is this not too much ? Legislators in various European countries are taxing according to power but also weight. And in Motorsports is the objective to have -more- weight when releasing a new race car ? Let alone an M road car ?
Are you happy with more weight ?
. Design: of course BMW wants to be bold. If this is targeted at another client segment, can they afford the big price increase versus the F80 ?
. Price and competition: if you compare it with a BMW Alpina B3 - the M3 is much more costly, no Touring available yet and even if slightly down on power, the B3 has much more torque. And the design is maybe more suited to a crowd who prefers to be more discreet. Would you go for a B3 (of course I available in your local market) ?
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