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      10-12-2021, 01:48 PM   #419
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Thanks for the info. Will keep following up with my dealer and see what they say (hopefully soon).
So I finally heard back from my dealer in New Jersey. My car does need a recall (really frustrating...). However, BMW North America is still confirming the recall release date, when required parts will be available, and the actual remedy for the recall. There's no ETA on when the details will be finalized at this point. They also mentioned we can continue driving the car in the meantime. Will share more as more info becomes available.

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So I finally heard back from my dealer in New Jersey. My car does need a recall (really frustrating...). However, BMW North America is still confirming the recall release date, when available parts will be available, and the actual remedy for the recall. There's no ETA on when the details will be finalized at this point. They also mentioned we can continue driving the car in the meantime. Will share more as more info becomes available.
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Thanks for the info. Will keep following up with my dealer and see what they say (hopefully soon).
So I finally heard back from my dealer in New Jersey. My car does need a recall (really frustrating...). However, BMW North America is still confirming the recall release date, when available parts will be available, and the actual remedy for the recall. There's no ETA on when the details will be finalized at this point. They also mentioned we can continue driving the car in the meantime. Will share more as more info becomes available.
I wonder if this will result in a stop sale for those of us who don't have their cars. I'm assuming it will
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Thanks for the info. Will keep following up with my dealer and see what they say (hopefully soon).
So I finally heard back from my dealer in New Jersey. My car does need a recall (really frustrating...). However, BMW North America is still confirming the recall release date, when available parts will be available, and the actual remedy for the recall. There's no ETA on when the details will be finalized at this point. They also mentioned we can continue driving the car in the meantime. Will share more as more info becomes available.
I wonder if this will result in a stop sale for those of us who don't have their cars. I'm assuming it will
It already has.
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So I finally heard back from my dealer in New Jersey. My car does need a recall (really frustrating...). However, BMW North America is still confirming the recall release date, when available parts will be available, and the actual remedy for the recall. There's no ETA on when the details will be finalized at this point. They also mentioned we can continue driving the car in the meantime. Will share more as more info becomes available.
I got the same details from my SA at Crevier in Orange County---

No date when the remedy is available and ok to drive.
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I got the same details from my SA at Crevier in Orange County---

No date when the remedy is available and ok to drive.
Makes me think that it isn't as serious as initially speculated because if it was I'm sure BMW would want affected cars to come in ASAP (to reduce any potential liability)

But then again, maybe I'm foolishly being too optimistic....
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I honestly would be more concerned if I had a car that was manufactured a little time before or after the recall window. Everything in manufacturing and quality control (and life really) is on a statistical bell curve and BMW is trying to guess an acceptable P-Value that covers the most likely failures.
No need to be concerned about parts outside the affected range.
I'm am a quality guy in automotive, and the traceability for certain safety parts or critical components is very thorough.
I've handled data that showed every single vehicle/VIN with certain airbag inflators during the Takata recall.

I have no doubt BMW has full traceability of the parts and vehicles affected.
How do explain the fact the fact that the Takata airbag recall kept getting expanded over time? Also, as crass as it sounds, a potentially failed bearing is not a critical safety component like an airbag and is not easily swappable. Just because the data can generate time window for the likely failed part doesn't mean that here wasn't another window that the failed part was manufactured.

Even worse, if there is something about the bearings' design that is a fundamental design flaw (cough Audi piston rings cough) and BMW makes a statistical bet on how many will fail in warranty vs out of warranty as the recall effort is very expensive. These design flaws are not considered safety and are all about the $$&. Lots of examples from the luxury care world
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I appreciate it, and I feel for anyone else in this situation. It sucks. I feel worse for the people that have taken delivery of the cars that are affected, because they really have no options. Im sure BMW doesnt have the manning, but id be happier if they sent engine specialists to repair the affected problem. Or, offer that extended warranty. And for me, since my VIN isnt listed, but I fall in that window, I get no guarantee, for anything.
Hey, your Vin is not listed?

Can you tell me how you found out your Vin was not listed?
Access to the sites we've been using to check, have recently been mysteriously disconnected by BMW. We were using their own UK site for VIN recalls, but it seems like BMW has removed the API. But before that, you could enter your vin number in the site, and it would tell you recalls or TSBs that affected your VIN.
I couldn't access those sites today but my CA told me my Kith G82 was affected. No details on when to drop off or anything yet though… damn
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Makes me think that it isn't as serious as initially speculated because if it was I'm sure BMW would want affected cars to come in ASAP (to reduce any potential liability)

But then again, maybe I'm foolishly being too optimistic....
I remain having a glass half full mentality--- my SA sent me a screen shot of my car and the campaign is there but no date to start as many have said here.

I am thinking and hoping that BMW would lock us down if this issue will cause catastrophic engine failure. Imagine the safety issues that would arise if someone was driving and the car just went poooof- thats our concern and I wont even mention the costs to replace so many S58's.

What sucks is my SA accidentally first pulled up my old G80 (2021 PB Comp) and of course that thing only has some software update due

So WTF happened in 2 plus months of production that has put our engines at risk?
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I remain having a glass half full mentality--- my SA send me a screen shot of my car and the campaign is there but no date to start as many have said here.

I am thinking and hoping that BMW would lock us down if this issue will cause catastrophic engine failure. Imagine the safety issues that would arise if someone was driving and the car just went poooof- thats our concern and I wont even mention the costs to replace so many S58's.
I’m with you Vic55
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I remain having a glass half full mentality--- my SA sent me a screen shot of my car and the campaign is there but no date to start as many have said here.

I am thinking and hoping that BMW would lock us down if this issue will cause catastrophic engine failure. Imagine the safety issues that would arise if someone was driving and the car just went poooof- thats our concern and I wont even mention the costs to replace so many S58's.

What sucks is my SA accidentally first pulled up my old G80 (2021 PB Comp) and of course that thing only has some software update due

So WTF happened in 2 plus months of production that has put our engines at risk?
I am also concerned by this recall. I just made the break in service last Saturday however they let me take the car without inform me. I discovered that on the invoice with a special annotation about a main bearing shell issue...

Like you if there is a risk to break the engine they will not have accepted that I take the car back.
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Well, since my VIN doesn't fall under the affected VINs, lets get this POS RAM issue completed, and deliver my car, already. It'll be 3 months, on Thursday, since I ordered my car.
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How do explain the fact the fact that the Takata airbag recall kept getting expanded over time? Also, as crass as it sounds, a potentially failed bearing is not a critical safety component like an airbag and is not easily swappable. Just because the data can generate time window for the likely failed part doesn't mean that here wasn't another window that the failed part was manufactured.

Even worse, if there is something about the bearings' design that is a fundamental design flaw (cough Audi piston rings cough) and BMW makes a statistical bet on how many will fail in warranty vs out of warranty as the recall effort is very expensive. These design flaws are not considered safety and are all about the $$&. Lots of examples from the luxury care world
The Takata issue was simple.
They designed and manufactured inflators using cheaper gas generants that degrade and breakdown into powder form when exposed to moisture.
The propellant in powder form burns MUCH quicker than grain form, resulting in a much higher surge in gas pressure.
Basically the gas inflator became a grenade in the steering wheel ready to go off in the event of a collision.

The affected vehicle range, brand, model, year, etc. was too big to cover in a single recall.
They did it in phases. Just manufacturing the replacement inflators became a huge business for competitors.

The Takata recall was one of the biggest incidents in automotive history and the case cannot be applied to other generic recalls like this one.

Although I do not have information about this bearing recall any more than you do, I doubt it'll be of that magnitude.

A batch/lot of bad parts get produced quite often in the field of manufacturing and QA.
It's not the end of the world and can be remedied.
But yes, I do feel bad for those affected. I hope BMW makes it right for the owners going through this ordeal.
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Well, since my VIN doesn't fall under the affected VINs, lets get this POS RAM issue completed, and deliver my car, already. It'll be 3 months, on Thursday, since I ordered my car.
Could be worse… I'm sitting at 5 months and it's still not in the states lol
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Well, since my VIN doesn't fall under the affected VINs, lets get this POS RAM issue completed, and deliver my car, already. It'll be 3 months, on Thursday, since I ordered my car.
Could be worse… I'm sitting at 5 months and it's still not in the states lol
Crazy.
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I came home form work wondering if the RAM issue was solved by now!!!! but I guess not...
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Well, since my VIN doesn't fall under the affected VINs, lets get this POS RAM issue completed, and deliver my car, already. It'll be 3 months, on Thursday, since I ordered my car.
3 months is normal lol. I ordered mine in mid-June and got it in mid-September. I felt lucky as I know people who have been waiting on their cars for 4-6 months.
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I'm affected by the RAM stop sale but not the main bearing, yet my car was within the production dates for the latter. The odd thing is that it's on its way to the states and it seems as it will get fixed here, yet my car sat at the port for some time too. Dealer says they don't suspect much of a delay due to it when it gets here. Not sure how accurate that is.

Another thing I found out today is that the actual date it left the port was on 10/2, yet when I checked on 10/4 it said it was still at the port, it is expected to get to the US on the 16th.

Reason I'm sharing this info is because it's crazy how different everyone's experience is. Some are waiting on the RAM issue at the port, some shipped off (like mine) to be dealt with elsewhere, some have the bearing issue. Point is that, unless it's been confirmed that your specific vehicle has the bearing stop sale, relax and don't worry as much as I did.

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My car prod. date is 8/18. Just got done signing papers and will be picking it up either tomorrow or the next day. Prior to today, I checked the Uk site and it showed 0 recall and of course the us site is up yet. I called into BMW NA and the rep confirmed that my vin is not affected by the Main Bearing Shell.

I was able to have another vin that showed 1 open recall on the UK site and 0 on the US site. I asked the rep to check that vin too and she came back with that Vin is affected and we cannot sell that vehicle until we fix the issue.

So if you guys are curious, give BMW NA a call and they will let you know.
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I'm affected by the RAM stop sale but not the main bearing, yet my car was within the production dates for the latter. The odd thing is that it's on its way to the states and it seems as it will get fixed here, yet my car sat at the port for some time too. Dealer says they don't suspect much of a delay due to it when it gets here. Not sure how accurate that is.

Another thing I found out today is that the actual date it left the port was on 10/2, yet when I checked on 10/4 it said it was still at the port, it is expected to get to the US on the 16th.

Reason I'm sharing this info is because it's crazy how different everyone's experience is. Some are waiting on the RAM issue at the port, some shipped off (like mine) to be dealt with elsewhere, some have the bearing issue. Point is that, unless it's been confirmed that your specific vehicle has the bearing stop sale, relax and don't worry as much as I did.

Good luck to all!
What ship are you on? Sirius Highway? Those dates line up with mine / expected to arrive in Georgia on the 16th then to Galveston on the 20th.
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Im so bummed. I told my dealer to put a stop hold on my paperwork.
Don't be bummed. Be happy you were able to pull the plug. Good call !
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