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      10-01-2021, 07:41 PM   #67
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Somebody in a thread, heck maybe even this one, mentioned that they could not find the satellite radio option. Not sure if it was actually missing or could not find. All I can say is there should be full transparency to customers up front if crap starts being omitted. Not cool at all. Mine better not come out this way.
No offense to that person, but it's pretty easy to find - if it's not listed with the other audio sources...maybe this is for real. Wild.

Presuming it is - can you use a sat radio app nicely integrated in AndroidAuto or CarPlay? Yes, sucking down cell data and not free satellite...beamy wave things...but...at least you'd get the content.
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      10-01-2021, 08:08 PM   #68
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I was told by my SA that BMW is not making some cars with the satellite radio components due to shortages - just an unannounced thing that won't be in the car. For me, that would be fine, I never used it in the last car and won't in this car either, but that seems like a huge, very visible thing to omit, and something a lot of customers will miss. Ineffective wireless charging is one thing, an entire radio system is another.

I would think this would be awfully easy to confirm...and also that someone would have reported it by now in one of the later week build threads. So maybe my SA was wrong?
My SA said the same thing to me. Also said Head Up Display availability issue too. AND he said they're being told Germany plants shutting down for month of November.
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      10-01-2021, 09:57 PM   #69
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I was told by my SA that BMW is not making some cars with the satellite radio components due to shortages - just an unannounced thing that won't be in the car. For me, that would be fine, I never used it in the last car and won't in this car either, but that seems like a huge, very visible thing to omit, and something a lot of customers will miss. Ineffective wireless charging is one thing, an entire radio system is another.

I would think this would be awfully easy to confirm...and also that someone would have reported it by now in one of the later week build threads. So maybe my SA was wrong?
Isn't this the RAM delay that is holding all the cars at port? They are building the cars without radios and shipping them. Then the cars get held at port until the radios can be sourced. Currently people are reporting 45-75 day delays waiting for the audio modules.
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      10-01-2021, 10:15 PM   #70
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When I picked up my car last week I was talking to the genius and he said that on some of the lower models in the BMW lineup they are dropping HUD and other options to save chips. Ms are not affected (apart from the wireless charging of course). I can see more and more of the camera issues we had - ie car produced without a key part because of lack of availability, car shipped and then missing items installed prior to delivery. My car (like many others) had to have all of the cameras retrofitted before delivery.
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      10-01-2021, 10:48 PM   #71
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Isn't this the RAM delay that is holding all the cars at port? They are building the cars without radios and shipping them. Then the cars get held at port until the radios can be sourced. Currently people are reporting 45-75 day delays waiting for the audio modules.
I don't think so but I guess I have no idea. Now that I think about it, I have no idea what that "RAM" actually does. Is it the satellite tuner? Or is it...some other thing?
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I don't think so but I guess I have no idea. Now that I think about it, I have no idea what that "RAM" actually does. Is it the satellite tuner? Or is it...some other thing?
I thought RAM was Radio/Audio Module? I could be wrong though.
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      10-03-2021, 03:31 AM   #73
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Here in Spain Wireless Charging is back again.
So is Parking 360º.
We currently have no restrictions over M3/4, only delays.
I know there are some hard restrictions to lower models though.
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      10-20-2021, 02:31 PM   #74
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Check Carfax for a 2021 M3 Comp and they are going for $95,000 all have less than 5000 miles, this is crazy. My dealer has two 2022 M4 one for $122,000 and another for $101,000 list as MSRP but it also shows two others at $76,000, and $78,000 but I checked and there is really not that much difference in options not sure why such a big difference except the one for 122k is an XDrive.

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Is happening to Porsche also. My local dealer has a 2020 911 S (992) with 13,000 miles listed for $148,000 bu I configured a similar 2022 911 S for $127,000, so how a two year old car with 13k miles cost 21k more than a new one, the answer is because you need to wait over a year closer to two for the new one, that is what I was told.
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      10-20-2021, 03:16 PM   #76
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Check Carfax for a 2021 M3 Comp and they are going for $95,000 all have less than 5000 miles, this is crazy. My dealer has two 2022 M4 one for $122,000 and another for $101,000 list as MSRP but it also shows two others at $76,000, and $78,000 but I checked and there is really not that much difference in options not sure why such a big difference except the one for 122k is an XDrive.
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      10-20-2021, 11:57 PM   #78
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      10-21-2021, 06:20 AM   #79
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In case we needed more bad news, China is drastically cutting magnesium production. Europe is expected to run out in weeks. That's...not good.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/m...gs-172061.html
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Somebody in a thread, heck maybe even this one, mentioned that they could not find the satellite radio option. Not sure if it was actually missing or could not find. All I can say is there should be full transparency to customers up front if crap starts being omitted. Not cool at all. Mine better not come out this way.
I was part of that group; the car has all necessary equipment but somewhere along the way they forgot to configure the car (software) for Sirius. It took two phone calls, three emails, a dealer visit, and three subsequent phone calls to get it all resolved, but it's fine now. Never once was it hardware.

But that was a car built in April, not today.
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      10-21-2021, 09:17 AM   #81
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Custom ordered my 22 G80 xdrive, got 3,500 off of msrp. Took 8 weeks, car came in, no issues. Must have gotten lucky!
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      10-21-2021, 09:20 AM   #82
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Custom ordered my 22 G80 xdrive, got 3,500 off of msrp. Took 8 weeks, car came in, no issues. Must have gotten lucky!
Who's your dealer?
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Chase Bank's auto researchers (spoke with them yesterday) are saying they expect the chip shortage to be over by the middle of 2022 and it will take until sometime in 2023 for that situation to normalize. We'll have to wait and see what is next in the shortage.
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      10-22-2021, 09:18 AM   #84
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You know… these electronic “deletions” may not actually be a bad thing if 1) you don’t really use the feature, 2) it means that there is less crap to break/go wrong. I almost welcome simplification and have a M car be more focused on driver engagement than a computer on wheels.

But I get that ppl expect all the tech for that price
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      10-22-2021, 11:10 AM   #85
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Who's your dealer?
My guess is Maine in general must not be that crazy of a market so not as much demand for allocations. Really probably just depends where you're ordering the car.
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      10-22-2021, 12:08 PM   #86
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My guess is Maine in general must not be that crazy of a market so not as much demand for allocations. Really probably just depends where you're ordering the car.
Yeah, I know the general tendency (when trying to secure allocations) is to focus on high-volume dealers, but if everyone else is doing the same thing, then more rural dealers may occasionally catch a break. I guess it reinforces the fact that it's worth calling around.
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      10-22-2021, 03:45 PM   #87
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Yea, when I placed my order there were no allocation, allocation came in about a week later and order placed (dealer told me they received 2 M3 (xdrive)and an M4 convert). I believe the one the dealer ordered for their inventory will be in stock soon as it is listed on their website. BMW of Westbrook
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I'm in Maine near Portland. I tried to go the route of big market dealer initially ( Boston), However those dealerships were silly in what they were expecting to get, as they were listing cars with barely any options for $95,000. My $3500 off of MSRP came in at 3% below MSRP.
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