Anyone else's shift assist not working with a Clutch Stop?

frankiebones · 10-19-2021, 03:01 PM

I saw a thread with a few posts that touched on this topic but wanted to revisit it.

I have a BMS Clutch stop with all rings installed. My car only engages the shift assist and blips the throttle maybe 5% of the time. For whatever reason, the shift assist seems to be triggered by a full depression of the clutch. That makes little sense to me, as most times with a "high grabbing" clutch, fully depressing the clutch is unnecessary and a waste of time when driving aggressively.

Most times I drive with shift assist off so removing the clutch stop isn't a worthwhile option.

modat · 10-19-2021, 03:03 PM

Bro. Why even go a individual color if you aren't going comp?

forza1976 · 10-19-2021, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by modat

Bro. Why even go a individual color if you aren't going comp?

Bro... Maybe he wanted a 6mt with a special color. The F man???

modat · 10-19-2021, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by forza1976

Bro... Maybe he wanted a 6mt with a special color. The F man???

I was kidding.. I saw this other post about people being douches in relation to the same subject and I was poking fun.

forza1976 · 10-19-2021, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by modat

I was kidding.. I saw this other post about people being douches in relation to the same subject and I was poking fun.

Oh, my apologies. Carry on

BRIGM3 · 10-19-2021, 03:41 PM

No issues here, and I have kept most (if not all) of the washers on.

bri1042 · 10-19-2021, 03:53 PM

I ran the clutch stop with all three rings for about six months. Most of the time it was fine, but every once in a while it just felt less than happy. I pulled it to see if I could acclimate to the clutch with stock travel (which was NOT easy...that thing did not want to come out...also, I'm wimpy).

I just didn't like the way everything felt stock, but rather than put the clutch stop back in (or buying a new one since it was pretty beat up from my removal efforts), I put a strip of rather thick, fluffy industrial-strength Velcro over the stock clutch stop (such as it is) and it's absolutely dandy.

mrrm3 · 10-19-2021, 04:09 PM

but didn't like how tight the "Christmas" tree limbs were going into the hole. So I re-installed the OE white rubber piece and then used industrial strength double-sided tape to glue a 1/2" thick piece of hard rubber (About an inch square) to the flat area on the clutch arm that lines up w/ the clutch stop.

Presto. Works like a charm, and the auto blip feature works just fine too.

The shaft of the BMS clutch stop is too tight IMHO, but obviously that won't mess w/ the auto blip feature. I'd remove one of the donut rings and see how that works.

mattburks · 10-19-2021, 04:42 PM

tried for about a week and threw it in the glove box whre it still sits. I 100% become acclimated after a few thousand miles... I simply find myself using about a 1/3 of the travel, and am yet to miss a shift or have a problem. What scared me about the rev match working & not working at random is that we're obviously F'ing with that electronic sensor's threshold. Didn't seem worth it to me at the end of the day.

LuckyBrand · 10-20-2021, 02:40 PM

I've had the clutch stop on with all washers for about 4 months. Never an issue with auto blip but I have ground the gears twice on really hard acceleration shifting super fast into 2nd gear. Talked to moproblems at a car show a couple of months ago and he said he took his out due to the same issue. I have heard others saying that this transmission does not like to be hurried and I have adjusted my style so I don't grind gears but it does take away some of the joy of really ripping it because I'm trying to be mindful. I may take it off and try something different eventually but I don't like the long travel in the pedal.

frankiebones · 10-20-2021, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyBrand

I've had the clutch stop on with all washers for about 4 months. Never an issue with auto blip but I have ground the gears twice on really hard acceleration shifting super fast into 2nd gear. Talked to moproblems at a car show a couple of months ago and he said he took his out due to the same issue. I have heard others saying that this transmission does not like to be hurried and I have adjusted my style so I don't grind gears but it does take away some of the joy of really ripping it because I'm trying to be mindful. I may take it off and try something different eventually but I don't like the long travel in the pedal.

So weird. I literally never get auto blips lol.

The stranger thing is the rev match worked for sh*t on my 2016 F80 as well. In efficient and sport it was inconsistent, and sometimes it would actually blip in sport +.

moproblems · 10-20-2021, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyBrand

I've had the clutch stop on with all washers for about 4 months. Never an issue with auto blip but I have ground the gears twice on really hard acceleration shifting super fast into 2nd gear. Talked to moproblems at a car show a couple of months ago and he said he took his out due to the same issue. I have heard others saying that this transmission does not like to be hurried and I have adjusted my style so I don't grind gears but it does take away some of the joy of really ripping it because I'm trying to be mindful. I may take it off and try something different eventually but I don't like the long travel in the pedal.

So I did end up removing the stop and the CDV. Honestly the stop really isn't needed and I don't miss it. I do still end up cludging the 1/2 when doing it fast but I chock that up to me not going for the clutch early enough. However I do screw it up much less often.

corbs09 · 10-20-2021, 04:18 PM

I removed mine.. I would only get the blips about 50% of the time and my OCD couldn't handle it.

10-19-2021, 03:01 PM	#1
frankiebones Brigadier General 5299 Rep 3,056 Posts Drives: Fire Orange G80 6MT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	Anyone else's shift assist not working with a Clutch Stop? I saw a thread with a few posts that touched on this topic but wanted to revisit it. I have a BMS Clutch stop with all rings installed. My car only engages the shift assist and blips the throttle maybe 5% of the time. For whatever reason, the shift assist seems to be triggered by a full depression of the clutch. That makes little sense to me, as most times with a "high grabbing" clutch, fully depressing the clutch is unnecessary and a waste of time when driving aggressively. Most times I drive with shift assist off so removing the clutch stop isn't a worthwhile option. __________________ Fire Orange 6MT G80 (Miss July, 2021 Cover of Bimmerpost) SMB M3 CS (gone) YMB F80 6MT (gone)
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10-19-2021, 03:03 PM	#2
modat Lieutenant Colonel 2463 Rep 1,738 Posts Drives: 2022 IOMG M3 Xdrive Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Bro. Why even go a individual color if you aren't going comp?
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10-19-2021, 03:41 PM	#6
BRIGM3 Enlisted Member 119 Rep 46 Posts Drives: G80 6MT Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	No issues here, and I have kept most (if not all) of the washers on.
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10-19-2021, 03:53 PM	#7
bri1042 Brigadier General 5937 Rep 3,291 Posts Drives: 2021 IOMG M3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	I ran the clutch stop with all three rings for about six months. Most of the time it was fine, but every once in a while it just felt less than happy. I pulled it to see if I could acclimate to the clutch with stock travel (which was NOT easy...that thing did not want to come out...also, I'm wimpy). I just didn't like the way everything felt stock, but rather than put the clutch stop back in (or buying a new one since it was pretty beat up from my removal efforts), I put a strip of rather thick, fluffy industrial-strength Velcro over the stock clutch stop (such as it is) and it's absolutely dandy.
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mrrm3 Second Lieutenant 125 Rep 212 Posts Drives: 2022 M4 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Santa Monica, CA iTrader: (0)	I bought a BMS clutch stop, but didn't like how tight the "Christmas" tree limbs were going into the hole. So I re-installed the OE white rubber piece and then used industrial strength double-sided tape to glue a 1/2" thick piece of hard rubber (About an inch square) to the flat area on the clutch arm that lines up w/ the clutch stop. Presto. Works like a charm, and the auto blip feature works just fine too. The shaft of the BMS clutch stop is too tight IMHO, but obviously that won't mess w/ the auto blip feature. I'd remove one of the donut rings and see how that works.
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mattburks Lieutenant 751 Rep 402 Posts Drives: G80 6MT Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Argyle, TX iTrader: (0)	tried for about a week and threw it in the glove box whre it still sits. I 100% become acclimated after a few thousand miles... I simply find myself using about a 1/3 of the travel, and am yet to miss a shift or have a problem. What scared me about the rev match working & not working at random is that we're obviously F'ing with that electronic sensor's threshold. Didn't seem worth it to me at the end of the day.
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10-20-2021, 02:40 PM	#10
LuckyBrand Captain 1304 Rep 866 Posts Drives: BMW X5 F15, G05 X5, G80 M3 6sp Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Michigan iTrader: (0)	I've had the clutch stop on with all washers for about 4 months. Never an issue with auto blip but I have ground the gears twice on really hard acceleration shifting super fast into 2nd gear. Talked to moproblems at a car show a couple of months ago and he said he took his out due to the same issue. I have heard others saying that this transmission does not like to be hurried and I have adjusted my style so I don't grind gears but it does take away some of the joy of really ripping it because I'm trying to be mindful. I may take it off and try something different eventually but I don't like the long travel in the pedal.
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corbs09 Lieutenant 355 Rep 478 Posts Drives: 09 335i Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Dallas iTrader: (1)	I removed mine.. I would only get the blips about 50% of the time and my OCD couldn't handle it.
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