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      10-15-2021, 10:13 AM   #23
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No vette or hc, I got one of them euro v8s lol. When i turn my car on right now in the garage that initial deep vroom its so lovely. This new covid doing of biz is so frustrating cuz I can't drive the damn thing. I think I'll take delivery, drive it around, if I absolutely hate it, which I doubt, I'll sell it and take a couple grand hit. My trade in is worth a lot so taxes won't be a huge issue.
This is the right decision. The M4 is a significantly better drivers car than the 850. If you really hate the sound there are plenty of options and that Valvetronic setup sounds insane to my ears. If I could get that sound at less than 125 decibels I would be all over it.
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I've driven the 840i, M850i and M8. Of the three, I'd take the 850 unless money is no object, and then it's a no-brainer.

However, I'm one of those old farts who quickly tires of a loud exhaust and looks for that button to turn it down.

Just like there's nothing like the rumble of a V8, also there is nothing like the shriek of an inline 6. At low RPMs, the V8 wins hands-down. At high RPMs, give me the 6.

For me, the compromise that BMW made in the G8x platform is nearly perfect - I can close the valves at will and make it whisper quiet (relatively speaking) or I can open them up and hear it scream. Could it be louder? Oh yeah, fer sure. I've had cars like that, and it gets old really quick. Think 5 hour road trip.

Money no object, if I had to pick between the 8 and the 4, I'd still pick the 4. It's actually more comfortable, a wider range of adjustments for the suspension, handles better, weighs less, and looks nearly as good on the outside. The 8 interior with full leather is a step up, for sure, but the 4 is still nothing to sneeze at. And I save, what, $50K? Because money is still an issue for most of us. Otherwise, we'd be on the McLaren forum.
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There is literally NOTHING exciting about the M850, absolutely nothing. I've driven one for 3 days as a loaner. No one is ever gonna point and say "hey Chris! Check out that M850!"

The M3 is incredible.
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No vette or hc, I got one of them euro v8s lol. When i turn my car on right now in the garage that initial deep vroom its so lovely. This new covid doing of biz is so frustrating cuz I can't drive the damn thing. I think I'll take delivery, drive it around, if I absolutely hate it, which I doubt, I'll sell it and take a couple grand hit. My trade in is worth a lot so taxes won't be a huge issue.
There is NOTHING like a V8.

Even those who know nothing about cars have always said they prefer V8 cars. My brother, who couldn't give 2 shits about cars. Don't care for styling, speed, performance, HP or anything like that, says the best car i ever bought was my C7Z. And i agree with him lol.

Cold start on my car is insane. Love GM for putting together such an amazing machine. Can't wait to get the C8Z too.
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I've driven the 840i, M850i and M8. Of the three, I'd take the 850 unless money is no object, and then it's a no-brainer.

However, I'm one of those old farts who quickly tires of a loud exhaust and looks for that button to turn it down.

Just like there's nothing like the rumble of a V8, also there is nothing like the shriek of an inline 6. At low RPMs, the V8 wins hands-down. At high RPMs, give me the 6.

For me, the compromise that BMW made in the G8x platform is nearly perfect - I can close the valves at will and make it whisper quiet (relatively speaking) or I can open them up and hear it scream. Could it be louder? Oh yeah, fer sure. I've had cars like that, and it gets old really quick. Think 5 hour road trip.

Money no object, if I had to pick between the 8 and the 4, I'd still pick the 4. It's actually more comfortable, a wider range of adjustments for the suspension, handles better, weighs less, and looks nearly as good on the outside. The 8 interior with full leather is a step up, for sure, but the 4 is still nothing to sneeze at. And I save, what, $50K? Because money is still an issue for most of us. Otherwise, we'd be on the McLaren forum.
The only issue with the inline 6's of BMW, is that they don't sound like a 2JZ or an RB25/26. Those sounded amazing.

The video someone posted in this thread with the aftermarket IOMG M3 sounded ok, but it sounds like a 350Z, which is a V6.

And there is nothing more annoying of a 6 cyl sound, than a freaking 350Z LOL
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weird seeing people mention how "great" bmw v8's are. I have first hand experience that bmw V8's are actually garbage and require 5x the maintenance than their I6 engines.
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weird seeing people mention how "great" bmw v8's are. I have first hand experience that bmw V8's are actually garbage and require 5x the maintenance than their I6 engines.
It's possible that some folks are referring to V8s in general, not the BMW problem-prone V8 that many of us are familiar with.

Domestic V8s for example, from GM and Ford (I don't know much about Chrysler) are generally bullet-proof reliable. And sound great.
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Exhaust is easily made better. Lots of options
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It's possible that some folks are referring to V8s in general, not the BMW problem-prone V8 that many of us are familiar with.

Domestic V8s for example, from GM and Ford (I don't know much about Chrysler) are generally bullet-proof reliable. And sound great.
Could be, I was talking about this comment "The BMW V8's are really some of the best motors ever made."

In my experience they were some of the worst ha
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It's possible that some folks are referring to V8s in general, not the BMW problem-prone V8 that many of us are familiar with.

Domestic V8s for example, from GM and Ford (I don't know much about Chrysler) are generally bullet-proof reliable. And sound great.

Yeah i was talking V8's in general.

And yes GM small block V8's are essentially indestructible. That's why people "LS everything" lol

V8's are the best haha
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weird seeing people mention how "great" bmw v8's are. I have first hand experience that bmw V8's are actually garbage and require 5x the maintenance than their I6 engines.
I loved the torque my V8 7 series had and when I went on trips to WV to pick my daughter up, I loved the way it handled in the mountains. I will say I still prefer the I6 my X5 has and prefer it more now. As far as maintenance for the V8, I owned five of them and it won't cheap and long term I would not own one again. My 7 cost me about 4k to maintain last year and I sold it.
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Yeah i was talking V8's in general.

And yes GM small block V8's are essentially indestructible. That's why people "LS everything" lol

V8's are the best haha
LOL I can't say I disagree with you there!



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Yeah i was talking V8's in general.

And yes GM small block V8's are essentially indestructible. That's why people "LS everything" lol

V8's are the best haha
Also they "LS everything" because you can buy them as crate engines or pull them out of 9 trillion wrecked cars more easily than you can grab many other V8 engines. The somewhat, oh what's the word, traditional nature of the engines make them easy transplants without too many packaging and electronics issues as well, I'd think.
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Ordered a M4 comp x in pbm w/o seeing it. Still stuck at port. Anybody get it, felt disappointed for whatever reason design, paint, exhaust etc, and just went with a different car?

I'm considering a m850i coupe over m4cx right now. It just looks and sounds so much better. Coming from a v8 supercharged engine, I can't stand how m4c sounds, it reminds me of my buddy's stock civic ex from high school.

What to do what to do...
Please share your experiences esp if you bought it just to flip it right away and how that went.
Or just get a M5 Comp.

Yes, G8X stock exhaust sounds like shit. It's limp.
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Also they "LS everything" because you can buy them as crate engines or pull them out of 9 trillion wrecked cars more easily than you can grab many other V8 engines. The somewhat, oh what's the word, traditional nature of the engines make them easy transplants without too many packaging and electronics issues as well, I'd think.
You see, the LS series engines is the jack of all trades, a master of all. That's why people swap them in.

They're simple.
They're affordable.
They're reliable.
They have incredible aftermarket.
They're a powerhouse stock.
They get good MPG.
They're torque monsters.
They're easily attainable.
They sound amazing.
They fit virtually in any car with essentially no modifications.

It's a no brainer on why people do them. I think the only reason why someone wouldn't want to do it even though they have all the access and/or money to do it, is because they want to try something different and not copy what everyone else is doing.

Otherwise everyone will be driving an LS based car.
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LOL I can't say I disagree with you there!





SICK!!

Dude i wanna do an LS7 swapped S2000 so bad!!!!

That's actually my dream project.
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LOL I can't say I disagree with you there!



What is this monster like to drive!? How much did the balance of the car change?
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What is this monster like to drive!? How much did the balance of the car change?
Honestly the balance didn't change much, It has the vorshlag mount kit so the motor sits low and pretty far back. An aluminum LS1 (motor in my car) its only about 40-60lbs heavier than a m52. I got coilovers valved to support the extra weight.

The best part is I am in this thing for around 10k, it makes 385hp reliably, parts are dirt cheap, and it gets about 22mpg.

Sorry for the derailer!
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