[Adcampo]

I’ve been kicking around ordering an G80 manual, but have been turned off by dealers telling me 12-18 month delivery times or promising me I’d be “next in line” and give them a $2500 non refundable deposit.

It seems the past few weeks more allocations seem available. I’ve had a couple dealers say they had an August allocation. Does this sound right? One dealer had an allocation, but I had to buy $1000 or add on’s and getting a 1% base rate mark up.

Also, anyone seeing dealers getting to the point of some discount off MSRP and not marking up the base rate?

[BigPaultheOctopus]

Originally Posted by Adcampo

I’ve been kicking around ordering an G80 manual, but have been turned off by dealers telling me 12-18 month delivery times or promising me I’d be “next in line” and give them a $2500 non refundable deposit.

It seems the past few weeks more allocations seem available. I’ve had a couple dealers say they had an August allocation. Does this sound right? One dealer had an allocation, but I had to buy $1000 or add on’s and getting a 1% base rate mark up.

Also, anyone seeing dealers getting to the point of some discount off MSRP and not marking up the base rate?

I am in FL and working with my dealer in GA...they don't have any add-on pkgs....Not sure about the rates since I am still months away from delivery...rates are changing rapidly due to the policies from the Feds....For g80 m3, no discounts...but for m4s, especially those already on the lots, you probably can get a few thousand off the MSRP...I waited since 2020 and tried to see if the market would get cooler and under msrp deals...but with the price increase on these cars each year, I pulled the trigger and didn't want to wait...

I don;t have a crystal ball to tell if this is the new norm or under msrp will come back...but personally, if you are not needing the car like right now, wait till the end of 2024...the market might get better and rates might be lower...just my 2cents here

[ChiTownM]

Everyone learned the lesson that these cars are getting more expensive every year. If you want to spec your own car find a dealer that has an allocation at MSRP and put your deposit down. You can negotiate the other stuff, just need to ask for it. If there is a used or new one on the lot, negotiate and buy on the last day of the month to get them to the price you are comfortable with.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by Adcampo

I’ve been kicking around ordering an G80 manual, but have been turned off by dealers telling me 12-18 month delivery times or promising me I’d be “next in line” and give them a $2500 non refundable deposit.

It seems the past few weeks more allocations seem available. I’ve had a couple dealers say they had an August allocation. Does this sound right? One dealer had an allocation, but I had to buy $1000 or add on’s and getting a 1% base rate mark up.

Also, anyone seeing dealers getting to the point of some discount off MSRP and not marking up the base rate?

I am sure some markets can still demand add ons and other greedy rip offs. In my case, I inquired about the Allocation February 5, had a Production Number February 6, car delivered May 26. At MSRP, no bump in rate, no add ons, free ceramic tint, $750 loyalty rebate. Very straight forward and easy to deal with.

[SoCalBimmerGuy]

Originally Posted by DFW_M

I am sure some markets can still demand add ons and other greedy rip offs. In my case, I inquired about the Allocation February 5, had a Production Number February 6, car delivered May 26. At MSRP, no bump in rate, no add ons, free ceramic tint, $750 loyalty rebate. Very straight forward and easy to deal with.

By any chance did you get yours from Sewell BMW in Grapevine? When I lived in DFW (Southlake) that is where I bought my X5 from and they were the same way. Great dealership.

[SoCalBimmerGuy]

Originally Posted by Adcampo

I’ve been kicking around ordering an G80 manual, but have been turned off by dealers telling me 12-18 month delivery times or promising me I’d be “next in line” and give them a $2500 non refundable deposit.

It seems the past few weeks more allocations seem available. I’ve had a couple dealers say they had an August allocation. Does this sound right? One dealer had an allocation, but I had to buy $1000 or add on’s and getting a 1% base rate mark up.

Also, anyone seeing dealers getting to the point of some discount off MSRP and not marking up the base rate?

When I put my order in for an M3 I locked in MSRP, Loyalty, and my Corp discount. So i am getting the car for $2k under MSRP. I also refused to put any money down and they agreed. If you let them run a credit app and lock in the rates that is more than enough to show you are serious. I have never put a deposit down to order a car. I am not giving a dealership an interest free loan. I wouldn't work with the dealer you are talking about. Go somewhere else. What they are telling you about the deposit being non-fundable and the 1000 dollar and on and the rate hike........absolute crap.

I also ordered a Manual M3. I ordered it in November 22 and should get it in September/October. The wait sucks no doubt about that. I will tell you that a BMW dealership that sells more M cars gets more allocations than one that doesn't so the wait time is less. BMW already announced that the current M3 and M2 will be the last manual transmissions they produce. These cars will hold their value and become collectable. I intend to keep this car forever as it is the last chance I will have in buying a brand new manual car (other than a 911) and who knows how long that will last.

I say do it...….Once you have it you will be happy. Come on the forums look what everyone has to say, talk about it, it makes it easier....at least it did for me. Just my two cents.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by Adcampo

I’ve been kicking around ordering an G80 manual, but have been turned off by dealers telling me 12-18 month delivery times or promising me I’d be “next in line” and give them a $2500 non refundable deposit.

It seems the past few weeks more allocations seem available. I’ve had a couple dealers say they had an August allocation. Does this sound right? One dealer had an allocation, but I had to buy $1000 or add on’s and getting a 1% base rate mark up.

Also, anyone seeing dealers getting to the point of some discount off MSRP and not marking up the base rate?

Many threads on this topic. But, I’ve been in the market since late March. For an M3, I would say the market is MSRP. My local dealer is still asking 5k over but MSRP is certainly available. Loyalty and other ‘discounts’ may lower your actual transaction cost but that’s not really a market/dealership item.

Dealers may say that a deposit is not refundable but rarely can that legally keep the deposit. Mostly they want to ensure, in this market where so many people get on lists a multiple dealerships, the buyer is serious.

As others have stated, some dealerships have allocations available pretty quickly. Other dealerships may take much longer. I was offered a 2023 build in about five weeks after my initial conversation. Just takes some leg work - or use a broker.

I ended up with a slightly used manual that I’m picking up tomorrow.

[CanesM4]

I just ordered mine last week. I got 2k off of MSRP plus $1500 loyalty. This is the 5th car I have gotten from this dealer though. They gave me 7k off of my 21 M4 last time. I went to one other dealer, just to shop around and they offered me $3500 off MSRP plus loyalty but they didn't get back to me soon enough letting me know if they could get an allocation so I got nervous and went with the other dealer, who 100% has the allocation. I wouldn't pay MSRP for one. There are deals out there

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by CanesM4

I just ordered mine last week. I got 2k off of MSRP plus $1500 loyalty. This is the 5th car I have gotten from this dealer though. They gave me 7k off of my 21 M4 last time. I went to one other dealer, just to shop around and they offered me $3500 off MSRP plus loyalty but they didn't get back to me soon enough letting me know if they could get an allocation so I got nervous and went with the other dealer, who 100% has the allocation. I wouldn't pay MSRP for one. There are deals out there

Good advice. I’ve only been seriously looking since March but since then my local dealer has been MSRP on an M4 and 5k over on a M3. So, stands to reason some dealers are going to be below MSRP on the M4.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by SoCalBimmerGuy

By any chance did you get yours from Sewell BMW in Grapevine? When I lived in DFW (Southlake) that is where I bought my X5 from and they were the same way. Great dealership.

Arlington. My 4th BMW from them, second M

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by CanesM4

I just ordered mine last week. I got 2k off of MSRP plus $1500 loyalty. This is the 5th car I have gotten from this dealer though. They gave me 7k off of my 21 M4 last time. I went to one other dealer, just to shop around and they offered me $3500 off MSRP plus loyalty but they didn't get back to me soon enough letting me know if they could get an allocation so I got nervous and went with the other dealer, who 100% has the allocation. I wouldn't pay MSRP for one. There are deals out there

You are talking M4 not M3, correct?
I have not seen off MSRP on M3s so maybe your two guys just don’t like money?

[Adcampo]

Originally Posted by CanesM4

I just ordered mine last week. I got 2k off of MSRP plus $1500 loyalty. This is the 5th car I have gotten from this dealer though. They gave me 7k off of my 21 M4 last time. I went to one other dealer, just to shop around and they offered me $3500 off MSRP plus loyalty but they didn't get back to me soon enough letting me know if they could get an allocation so I got nervous and went with the other dealer, who 100% has the allocation. I wouldn't pay MSRP for one. There are deals out there

Thanks. What state are you in?

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by Adcampo

Thanks. What state are you in?

I’m guessing CT

[CanesM4]

Originally Posted by Adcampo

Thanks. What state are you in?

Ct

[sixspeedshift]

I think ADM is more dealer vs market based

In my same market one dealer asked for 5k markup, others said 12 months waitlist, and 2-3 put me first on their waitlists. I got an allocation inside a month from a dealer that sells more Ms, despite being 2nd on their list.

No discount on M3. But discounts are available on M4s

[MugenNeuspeed]

I had no adm waited 1 yr

[Shaneartistry]

Originally Posted by DFW_M

You are talking M4 not M3, correct?
I have not seen off MSRP on M3s so maybe your two guys just don’t like money?

I got $1500 under MSRP on my ‘23 M3.

[anothercarguy09]

Wow at these discounted m3s! Hope i have the same luck

[DocWeatherington]

Originally Posted by anothercarguy09

Wow at these discounted m3s! Hope i have the same luck

Look at Edmunds incentives.. Your always able to get something if your eligible. Just have to make sure it's a true discount with no hidden fees or marked up MF. Some will offer 2500 off but make it up on the back end.


https://www.edmunds.com/bmw/car-incentives.html

[ebrietas]

Shopping around for a custom build order and at most getting MSRP + 500 off. Located in California. Given 2025 allocations are soon to start, do you think I should shop around more for a bigger discount on 2024 model year or just send the above offer? Thanks!

[geekflyer]

I've been offered 4% off MSRP for an M4 allocation in California. Is that good?

[Adcampo]

Originally Posted by geekflyer

I've been offered 4% off MSRP for an M4 allocation in California. Is that good?

I haven’t kept up with the market latelty, but I would expect you should be able to get than 4% off on an M4. California may be different. I would do a big search for any M4’s that may be sitting on a dealer lot.