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      11-30-2023, 09:53 AM   #23
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so yeah, an M3 that is electric will be called an M3. why is this news? the iM3 or whatever moniker rumor was stupid from the start. an M3 will be an M3, BEV or otherwise.

same reason why Porsche has the Taycan "Turbo".
“Turbo” added to Taycan is a joke IMO
Talk about confusing the masses…
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"We will never put a forced induction in an M"
"We will never make an X into an M"
"We will never make an automatic for an M"

Sure BMW. Sure
I don't recall them ever saying any of these things. Particularly the last one, since the 2nd gen M3--which was the first M3 produced in any serious volume--was available with an Automatic.
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How is this a bad thing?
Most likely because M performance models are base models with a more power full engine and possibly bigger brakes and that's about it. The full fledged M models have different model number (eg G20 vs G80), reworked suspension, cooling, drivetrain and many more things diffent... All of these are mostly invisible from outside, so the M exclusive appearances stuff (side mirrors, hood bump, quad exhaust... ) helped distinguished the difference with base models.
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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...-never-use-i-m

BMW M boss rejects iM3 speculation: “We would never use an i on an M”

Asked if BMW could develop a successor to the i8 (and why not call it the iM1 or Mi for good measure?) Van Meel replied: “No, that will be a Mission Impossible! Actually, we would never use an i on an M, even though it would be electric.

“Because an M3 had a four-cylinder, six-cylinder, eight-cylinder engine; naturally aspirated, turbocharged ones. Now it’s even got an xDrive, but it always remained an M3.

“So if we would ever do something like that, it will always be called an M without an i. Because that’s just the technology, and M is not about technology.

“It’s about a promise, it’s about motorsports, it’s about emotion. It’s not about the drivetrain.”

And as for an electrified supercar specifically, Van Meel said he and his team were “always dreaming about a car like that” but for now, it’s a no. “It’s in our hearts, it’s in our minds. As car guys and car girls, we’re always thinking and trying out cars like that. But I cannot say yes to you.”
But! You will use an "Electric Motor" on an "M"! Ok,...LOL!!!!
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“Turbo” added to Taycan is a joke IMO
Talk about confusing the masses…
Porsche kept the "turbo" moniker even though the regular Carrera engines moved to forced induction. AMG had the 6.2 V8 in the 63 AMG models before moving to the 4.0TT V8 (and now the I4 turbo hybrid). BMW came out with the 320i and 328i which had the same engines.

whatever. none of this makes sense. names became meaningless as manufacturers simply used them as trim levels and nothing more.
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      11-30-2023, 10:54 AM   #29
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They’ve already said that. Also, manufacturers often trademark names to prevent others (Kia) from using them. It is cheaper than a lawsuit. The way this forum and psuedo-media ran with assumptions on the iM3 trademark bothered me - glad it’s cleared up.
Which is why Hyundai had to go with N for their performance EVs. Just pick the next letter in the alphabet. M has a history.
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Take all of this with a grain of salt:

BMW in the 90s: “we would never make a FWD BMW,” proceeds to make a fancy MINI…

But iM3 sounds more like an Apple product than a BMW. Plus why the need for the i moniker when everything is electric?
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Well, maybe it’s not an “iM3” but they did claim that it will be full blown electric car. I am guessing that would be the end of the real ///M car.
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"We will never put a forced induction in an M"
"We will never make an X into an M"
"We will never make an automatic for an M"

Sure BMW. Sure
Lest we forget.
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Seems like EM3 would be easier to say.
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      11-30-2023, 01:17 PM   #34
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Um???? I5 M60
That’s not an M car. The 5 series M car will be released soon and it will be called, wait for it…

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I don't recall them ever saying any of these things. Particularly the last one, since the 2nd gen M3--which was the first M3 produced in any serious volume--was available with an Automatic.
Exactly. Just toxicity and cynicism.
Everything's bad, everyone's a liar.
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Part of me is insanely resistant and the other part is kinda intrigued.
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Gotta love how theyll happily spray "M" all over any car like Ron Jeremy on some dumb chicks face, but talk about using the letter "i" on and M and hes like - WHOA WHOA WHOA, dont u dare talk about the letter "i" that way!

I hate this guy ... hes always been a sellout.
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I guess it’s okay to put an X on an ///M
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Also, manufacturers often trademark names to prevent others (Kia) from using them.
This makes a lot of sense.
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Since BMW has stated they intened to get rid of the "Compeitition" moniker after the G series, I suspect the identifier will follow the same principle to identify an electric variant. M3 Electric, M3 Electrified, M3 Heavy (because it will weight 7000lbs). Something along those lines.
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The should never use the i at the beginning for anything.
I never understood the use of "i" for electric cars. Originally, "i" stood for fuel injection.
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This guy says “we would never”…..um we don’t know what to expect from you wackos!!!!
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I would prefer to see that they would be a bit more loyal to their own proclaimed virtues instead of respecting strict tenet to their naming convenstions.

One of the strongest brands in the world, with a straight pedigree that launches a 2.6tons truck as its second only bespoke true sportscar, is not to be trusted in anyway.

Again he says "no" we don't build a true sportscar. Apparently the market keeps asking for it, and they keep rejecting the idea.
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Um???? I5 M60
The i5 M60 just went into a quiet corner and drew circles, while crying.
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