[BushwoodCC]

I just got my G80 back from break in service and my advisor told me they removed some "limiters" on the car which keeps it in a safe operating range until 1200 miles. It took several hours of software updates, etc, and he said it should give about 10% more power now. Interesting. Did you all know about that? This is my first M3 and so far, I am impressed.

[bri1042]

Nope. It's a misconception that never dies. If that's your Service Advisor, I'd seriously consider switching to a new SA...not very encouraging when an SA knows the product that badly.

[bmw noob]

Not sure the SA doesn't know better. Better guess is that they know it's a load of horse manure, but want the owner to feel like something big happened.

That said, we have all heard sales reps and sa's say some...questionable....things, donut isn't an impossibility.

If you are bothered after learning that absolutely no such thing was done, speak to the service manager and ask to get transferred to a new SA due to a lack of confidence in that person's knowledge.

[BushwoodCC]

Originally Posted by bri1042

Nope. It's a misconception that never dies. If that's your Service Advisor, I'd seriously consider switching to a new SA...not very encouraging when an SA knows the product that badly.

Interesting. He said that it was changing the software so that the automatic transmission can rev higher before shifting. I'm not a gear head or M3 enthusiast, but it made sense to me. The service primarily consisted of them updating the software on the car, so his story seemed to hang together, and I had no reason to doubt him.

I am curious, as this is my first M3, what the misconception has been in the past. So they do nothing but lie to us to make us feel better? Seems like a stretch, but stranger things have happened...

[Ximian]

Originally Posted by skim_atx

Interesting. He said that it was changing the software so that the automatic transmission can rev higher before shifting. I'm not a gear head or M3 enthusiast, but it made sense to me. The service primarily consisted of them updating the software on the car, so his story seemed to hang together, and I had no reason to doubt him.

I am curious, as this is my first M3, what the misconception has been in the past. So they do nothing but lie to us to make us feel better? Seems like a stretch, but stranger things have happened...

There might be a software update for the transmission and it would be normal to update software if it's available during the break-in service. However, break-in service on its own for the longest time has been just an oil change and differential fluid change. The G8x are not limited in any way out of the factory based on the information we have available which is primarily what we have in the document attached to this post - https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...94&postcount=1

[AndroidRobot]

You can absolutely redline the car before break in is done in every gear so that's a bunch of nonsense. It's sad there's so much misinformation these days but some things never change

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

You can absolutely redline the car before break in is done in every gear so that's a bunch of nonsense. It's sad there's so much misinformation these days but some things never change

Interesting and not trying to play devils advocate here. But I have been unable to get through to redline. Even in S3. My car won’t let me get through the yellow warning around 6750 rpm.

I don’t know if it’s only with Xdrive cars or what.

But I can promise you my car won’t let me take it all the way to red yet.

I’ll update after my break in service. It’s tomorrow.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by The Stig

Interesting and not trying to play devils advocate here. But I have been unable to get through to redline. Even in S3. My car won't let me get through the yellow warning around 6750 rpm.

I don't know if it's only with Xdrive cars or what.

But I can promise you my car won't let me take it all the way to red yet.

I'll update after my break in service. It's tomorrow.

Are you in S3 ? What gear? I'm almost to break in service but I don't go about 3000rpm until the oil is at temp. I can hit redline in 1st - 3rd. I haven't found a good stretch to realty let it go all out beyond those gears. I'm D3 if will short shift before redline but in S3 you can bounce off the rev limiter. I know this because I wanted to see if it would end sadly at redline gear shifts aren't the snappiest.

Out of curiosity I'm going to send my oil and diff fluid to the lab. I want to see if half following break in makes a difference.

I can take a video to show you it'll hit redline and mines an X-Drive

[Gfit]

I've accidentally bounced off the limiter the first few days I had the car until I got a better feel for it.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by skim_atx

Interesting. He said that it was changing the software so that the automatic transmission can rev higher before shifting. I'm not a gear head or M3 enthusiast, but it made sense to me. The service primarily consisted of them updating the software on the car, so his story seemed to hang together, and I had no reason to doubt him.

I am curious, as this is my first M3, what the misconception has been in the past. So they do nothing but lie to us to make us feel better? Seems like a stretch, but stranger things have happened...

I am not a gearhead or an M3 enthusiast either. My dealer told me all the same things your dealer told you. But then when I asked the actual technician doing the 1200 mile service and he said he was just changing some fluids. So I don’t know what to believe. I never even tried to redline my first M3 G80 in the first 1200 miles. I definitely brought it above 5000 RPM a couple of times trying to get around cars in traffic though. But that was it. Other than that I’d babied it until the first service.

[barryc365]

Interesting that you guys mentioned you are not gear heads or M3 enthusiasts. Out of curiosity how did you come across the M3 and decide to buy one? It's a pretty decent car to have found yourself in!

I got stranded at football practice when I was 7 years old and a fella in an Estoril Blue e36 M3 Evo gave me a ride home. I was bitten by the bug hard

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by barryc365

Interesting that you guys mentioned you are not gear heads or M3 enthusiasts. Out of curiosity how did you come across the M3 and decide to buy one? It's a pretty decent car to have found yourself in!

I got stranded at football practice when I was 7 years old and a fella in an Estoril Blue e36 M3 Evo gave me a ride home. I was bitten by the bug hard

It’s only been the past few years that my kids have grown up and I feel comfortable spending this kind of money on a car or other luxury items. My first nice car was a Mercedes C450. I loved how fast it could go and it was very luxurious inside. I put many miles on it and it was time to change. I was going to go with the BMW M340i. In fact I even ordered it. But then I saw the G80. I really liked how they changed the look. One thing I never liked about BMW is they’ve had the same grill for 30 years on every freaking car. I mean come on. A little boring. But the G80 was different. Very aggressive looking. The also changed the suspension from the one they had on the F80 which was not very fun to drive as a daily. I looked at getting a CPO F80. It was rough. Very uncomfortable unless you were in let’s have fun mode. I don’t mind a rough ride in sports mode. But let’s face it you’re not always going to drive like that. So when I read the specs on the G80 and I already loved the new looks I had to have it. That’s why.

[LukeM15]

I thought the only featured that was unlocked during break in was launch control or maybe that was only with the F80’s? Otherwise just a standard fluid change there is no such extra power magic thing.

[chicagofan00]

There are zero limits placed on this car straight out of the factory, including launch control being available. The technical documentation from BMW confirms it. There are plenty of videos of people using launch control on their drive home from the dealership after taking delivery. There are plenty of stories and videos of people taking the car to the track the first few days of ownership and not running into any limiters. Absolutely nothing is done to the car at the break-in service other than an oil change and a couple other fluid changes.

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by skim_atx

I just got my G80 back from break in service and my advisor told me they removed some "limiters" on the car which keeps it in a safe operating range until 1200 miles. It took several hours of software updates, etc, and he said it should give about 10% more power now. Interesting. Did you all know about that? This is my first M3 and so far, I am impressed.

Ask your service advisor to show you a copy of the documentation identifying that more power is available after the run in service.

He won't be able to because it just isn't true.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by barryc365

Interesting that you guys mentioned you are not gear heads or M3 enthusiasts. Out of curiosity how did you come across the M3 and decide to buy one? It's a pretty decent car to have found yourself in!

I got stranded at football practice when I was 7 years old and a fella in an Estoril Blue e36 M3 Evo gave me a ride home. I was bitten by the bug hard

I'm a gearhead, just not an M enthusiast at all. I been with corvettes for 2 decades now. With other fun toys thrown in the mix as well.

I got the M3 because i'm getting old lol. And i started to appreciate luxury performance cars as of only a couple of years ago. I wanted something comfy, spacious, fast, practical, and that looks good.

M3 comp checked all those boxes. Even though i didn't get the car yet lol. I feel confident in my choice.

[BushwoodCC]

Originally Posted by barryc365

Interesting that you guys mentioned you are not gear heads or M3 enthusiasts. Out of curiosity how did you come across the M3 and decide to buy one? It's a pretty decent car to have found yourself in!

I got stranded at football practice when I was 7 years old and a fella in an Estoril Blue e36 M3 Evo gave me a ride home. I was bitten by the bug hard

I say I'm not an M3 enthusiast because I've never owned one until now...but I have wanted one since I was in high school! I don't know all the differences between the different generations of M3, the engines, transmissions, tuning, etc., but I do know that I love my car right now and can't think of another that fits me and my lifestyle so perfectly. I'm also not a "gear head", but I did research at the Vehicle Dynamics Lab at Stanford, so my knowledge is primarily academic. We worked with Dinan and got to look behind the curtains at their research...got to see some amazing M3s on lifts back in the late 90's. I've never put a wrench to an engine or tuned anything before. I wish I had and knew how to do all that stuff, it's just not where I've invested my time.

The reasons I love this car is that it is a legit sports car that can fit 5 people and can be a daily driver. The daily driver aspect was what worried me the most about the G80s, but after having had one for about a month now, I can tell you that it is absolutely perfect for a spirited daily driver. I have 4 kids now, so it can almost fit my entire family as well...can't do that with a Porsche or Corvette. I don't know how many of you on this forum also have looked at the prices of SUVs and trucks lately, but the M3 isn't that much more that a fully loaded limited F-150, or Yukon Denali...maybe less depending on how your configure it. I've owned both of those cars before, and just needed a change. Call it a mid-life crisis, but man I am so glad I went for what I really wanted!

[PVC]

I agree with others that say there are no limiters to be removed. I think they just flush the fluids and do an oil change.

The dealer that I bought the car from told me the same stories about the limiters, but he also mentioned something about the re-sale value of the car being affected if the 1200 miles service is not done on time. He said so long as it's done before 1200, all is well. Otherwise, the car gets a negative point in its history and that could affect the re-sale value. I suppose, that is more of a concern when you lease the car and the dealer has to get rid of it once it's returned.

[modat]

Originally Posted by PVC

I agree with others that say there are no limiters to be removed. I think they just flush the fluids and do an oil change.

The dealer that I bought the car from told me the same stories about the limiters, but he also mentioned something about the re-sale value of the car being affected if the 1200 miles service is not done on time. He said so long as it's done before 1200, all is well. Otherwise, the car gets a negative point in its history and that could affect the re-sale value. I suppose, that is more of a concern when you lease the car and the dealer has to get rid of it once it's returned.

That's more bs. What's with these guys spewing out false info

[LuvMyE92]

B.S. has been floating around this world since... bulls were invented. The Internet just makes it worse.

I asked not my SA but the lead tech about this break-in software update, and he just smiled and said "not to my knowledge". All they do is reset the service indicator.

A buddy of mine with an M3 Comp claims that it has different suspension and brakes than my M4 base. I do believe that is another old wives tale, created by old wives who preferred the automatic and had to rationalize the extra money.

[PVC]

Originally Posted by modat

That's more bs. What's with these guys spewing out false info

Well, there's got to be a reason for the BS. Especially one that's been spread as much as this by people that sell the car. The negative point on the car history does make sense to me.

[chris3g]

Anything that comes from an SA should be assumed BS until proven otherwise. The technical manual for this car has been posted on this site - download it and read it, it's a phenomenal resource. Just by doing that you will have more accurate info about this platform than 99.9% of dealership employees.