[M3G80Jake]

Rather just get a normal G80 M3

[STALKER]

Ha!!! I can’t believe I’m gonna say this, but I need a proper cup holders, deal breaker for a daily.

[nickohlie]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

CSs are made for forum threads It's the classic BMW recipe:

Yes it will be better than a M3CX. Sorry but BMW intentionally leaves gas in the tank just for these limited models, that is what it is.
Yes it's a ludicrous MSRP for a tune, carbon pieces, recalibrated EDC, and some additional hardware.
Yes you can take a civic G80 and turn it into a CS killer and no it still won't be a CS.

The CS formula has been figured out for a while now - for BMW it's a rinse & repeat exercise. This is the way.

in the case with f90 m5 and f90 m5cs i must agree with everything you said.
there was an unjustifiable price premium but at least it truly was different, as in you couldn't order any m5 comp or non comp with buckets, that came standard in the m5cs front & back! While with g80 m3 you can have same buckets m3 base or on comp, and you get to pick the color!..

M3cs is just not special enough, you can order a g80 m3cx to be nearly same weight as the m3cs, (my 22 m3cx was 3800 on scale with just midpipe/dp and 3830 stock 1/4th in the tank)

id be less upset had they made CCBs standard, but they didnt, and i think this generation M3CS was a cash grab by BMW. Couple more hp, carbon pieces and restricted color options for both interior exterior just do not justify the price tag

[DC2RtoCT9Atof87]

Honestly. People are b*tching and moaning they can do XYX to their G80 to make it better/faster than the CS but we know that the suspension tuning/differential tuning/intangible programming that is done that cannot be done as aftermarket. IE, there will be some vehicle dynamics that cannot be replicated. Unless I am wrong, I know of no tuner that can do this to the ECU. Time will only tell if what BMW did adds up to a vastly superior car, until then, I think people should temper their poopoo (jealousy?) parade.

The point is, out of the box, it is and will be faster than the rest of the g80 line up. Any future CS owner can quip back and can do the same mods…

I am not sure if I’ll keep my allocation (only if I get a say in the spec), but I don’t plan on mod’ing it at all.

Edit- same bias happened when the CTR LE came out, but I’d say y’all bmw owners are more fired up about this.

[FISH22]

The more I think about it, the more I get excited about negative posts… more cars for me to select from down the road. …….



Yes, complete pile of crap this CS. Stay away. Junk.

[nickohlie]

Originally Posted by DC2RtoCT9Atof87

Honestly. People are b*tching and moaning they can do XYX to their G80 to make it better/faster than the CS but we know that the suspension tuning/differential tuning/intangible programming that is done that cannot be done as aftermarket. IE, there will be some vehicle dynamics that cannot be replicated. Unless I am wrong, I know of no tuner that can do this to the ECU. Time will only tell if what BMW did adds up to a vastly superior car, until then, I think people should temper their poopoo parade.

The point is, out of the box, it is and will be faster than the rest of the g80 line up. Any future CS can quip back and can do the same mods…

I am not sure if I’ll keep my allocation (only if I get a say in the spec), but I don’t plan on mod’ing it at all.

dont get me wrong at all, i am genuinely disappointed! I crashed my 22 less than a week ago, m3CS gets released and im thinking its a sign & its meant to be, texted all my contacts 2 hours after it was released.. but the further i looked into it, the more disappointed i got and instead just placed an order for irish green m3cx with ivory buckets and CCBs, cost me $105k and hope it weighs same 3830 my 2022 did

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by nickohlie

dont get me wrong at all, i am genuinely disappointed! I crashed my 22 less than a week ago, m3CS gets released and im thinking its a sign & its meant to be, texted all my contacts 2 hours after it was released.. but the further i looked into it, the more disappointed i got and instead just placed an order for irish green m3cx with ivory buckets and CCBs, cost me $105k and hope it weighs same 3830 my 2022 did

Yeah, but then there will be that day where you see a CS in the wild and you’ll be like ffffuuuuu.

Instant regret.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by nickohlie

dont get me wrong at all, i am genuinely disappointed! I crashed my 22 less than a week ago, m3CS gets released and im thinking its a sign & its meant to be, texted all my contacts 2 hours after it was released.. but the further i looked into it, the more disappointed i got and instead just placed an order for irish green m3cx with ivory buckets and CCBs, cost me $105k and hope it weighs same 3830 my 2022 did

Just like the CSL, one of the CS's worst enemy is the regular M3C because it is already very good. My interest in a CS or CSL models is more the suspension, drivetrain and overall driving feel than esthetics stuff but I think the gap to the CSL is more worth it than the CS, but the brand is starting to steer more towards YouTube views and pleasing cars and coffee social media crowd, I recall the F series CS lunch being a lot more serious and focused on the dynamics of the car instead of focusing on flashy stuff.

Anyways the asking price is relative when you see what happened on the Porsche world

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by nickohlie

dont get me wrong at all, i am genuinely disappointed! I crashed my 22 less than a week ago, m3CS gets released and im thinking its a sign & its meant to be, texted all my contacts 2 hours after it was released.. but the further i looked into it, the more disappointed i got and instead just placed an order for irish green m3cx with ivory buckets and CCBs, cost me $105k and hope it weighs same 3830 my 2022 did

Sweet spec!

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Hardly.

M3cs is ugly and it just doesn’t do enough to justify itself as a special edition. If the base car was the only other vehicle available then yes, but compared to an m3cx… it’s not nearly special, but ever so slightly better (and way more ugly compared to an individual m3cx).

You do you. But that’s quite a bold statement before even driving one or seeing it in the flesh.

[nickohlie]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

How so?
Last gen m3cs are available to buy for 1/3 what they went for new right now with relatively low miles.

This gen m3cs will be the same in 5-7 years. I think I hedged very close to reality with my statement. It’s an uglier m3 while being a very slightly more competent car.

You guys act like it’s going to blow the doors off the m3cx which will be left in limp mode trying to keep up with it.

M3cs didn’t really do anything that special. I wish it did. I could afford the car, being completely honest when I say I don’t want it.

i agree with you, f80 m3cs > g80 m3cs, both might be a flop, but f80 wasn't ugly.
if you ask me signal green was wrong choice of color, had they went with British racing green, ppl would have bought it just because of BRG

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

How so?
Last gen m3cs are available to buy for 1/3 what they went for new right now with relatively low miles.

This gen m3cs will be the same in 5-7 years. I think I hedged very close to reality with my statement. It’s an uglier m3 while being a very slightly more competent car.

You guys act like it’s going to blow the doors off the m3cx which will be left in limp mode trying to keep up with it.

M3cs didn’t really do anything that special. I wish it did. I could afford the car, being completely honest when I say I don’t want it.

I’m saying it’s a bold statement because you’re so sure that the M3Cx will be nearly the same car as the CS. Price aside. I’m banking on these things tanking in a few years so I can scoop one up.

My statement comes from many miles of daily driving my G80C, incredible back road drives, and continuously learning new things about how good it is. To imagine it being even just a little better (from the factory) is mind blowing and something to get excited about. I don’t think anyone here is saying it’s going to blow the doors off an M3Cx. We all know it’s going to come down to how it will feel. It’s a no-brainer that it’ll feel more special.

As for looks, I’m sure a lot of us are saying the opposite; it’s wild and exciting. Maybe I’m somewhat numb with my current ‘21 G80. I’ve owned it for coming on 2 years, and I’m just used to it.

[ishowerinjager]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

How so?
Last gen m3cs are available to buy for 1/3 what they went for new right now with relatively low miles.

This gen m3cs will be the same in 5-7 years. I think I hedged very close to reality with my statement. It’s an uglier m3 while being a very slightly more competent car.

You guys act like it’s going to blow the doors off the m3cx which will be left in limp mode trying to keep up with it.

M3cs didn’t really do anything that special. I wish it did. I could afford the car, being completely honest when I say I don’t want it.

1/3 the cost? How much were idiots near you paying for a CS when they came out? Right now in Canada an m3 CS is selling for 15-20% less than the old MSRP (which everyone paid near me). Not bad for 5-6 year old car.

Also, You act like the m5 reviews weren’t entirely different than the m5cs reviews. From most respected opinions out there the m5 was meh, while the m5cs was car of the year and entirely different. I think you should hold your tongue for a few months (maybe you end up being right, maybe you don’t). You seem a little confident without any data to back it up at this point.

[EthanEJC]

Originally Posted by DC2RtoCT9Atof87

Honestly. People are b*tching and moaning they can do XYX to their G80 to make it better/faster than the CS but we know that the suspension tuning/differential tuning/intangible programming that is done that cannot be done as aftermarket. IE, there will be some vehicle dynamics that cannot be replicated. Unless I am wrong, I know of no tuner that can do this to the ECU. Time will only tell if what BMW did adds up to a vastly superior car, until then, I think people should temper their poopoo (jealousy?) parade.

The point is, out of the box, it is and will be faster than the rest of the g80 line up. Any future CS owner can quip back and can do the same mods…

I am not sure if I’ll keep my allocation (only if I get a say in the spec), but I don’t plan on mod’ing it at all.

Edit- same bias happened when the CTR LE came out, but I’d say y’all bmw owners are more fired up about this.

If it’s software it can be changed..

Far as I’m aware its the same car there’s no new hardware they’ve just taken the M3CX and just given it some finner tuning it won’t be long until people start flashing their cars again with the CS setup like the did with F8X.

Even the CS parts that they’ve put on seem to be just a grill, bonnet and the wheels? Which people will just buy and already have…

Does anyone know if the lip spolier is the same as the normal M performance one you spec from factory or is different cause I can’t tell any difference?

I like the car cause it’s a CS but I fail to see what makes it special other then the badge? Feel like you could just buy a normal M3CX and save money?

[ishowerinjager]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

The m5 is not the m3cx.
You aren’t making a good comparison here imo.

m3cs (F80) can be had for $45-$55k now. You seem uninformed.

Careful who you call idiots around here, cause the same people are going to do it again. What do you think an m3cs g80 is going to sell for?

I’m not making a good comparison? I’m comparing an m5 to an m5cs (the exact comparison you are making for the m3).

Not uniformed up here. New m3cs went for 118-125 up here. There are multiple listed now from. 90-110 at this time.

My guy at my dealer offered me a new one for msrp at 148. Maybe you need a new connect. These shouldn’t go for over msrp

[nickohlie]

g80 m3cs with frozen color and ccbs is gonna cost you $132k 543hp @ 3900lbs
would you rather have that
orrr
i found a used 2022 m5cs which comes frozen with ccbs standard 6,781 miles for $145k 627hp @ 4000lbs

apples to apples theres a clear winner
and im not even a fan of m5cs overall yet i still can see the obvious flop g80 m3cs is

[ishowerinjager]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Wow, let’s go back to analogy school.

You’re comparing an m5 to an m5cs, as being like an m3cx to an m3cs.

And that’s a junk analogy.
If you bothered to read, I wrote multiple times that the cs compared to an m3 would have made sense, but does not in light of the cx.

Also,
Feel free to overpay for your F80 m3cs. It’s your money. Your guy at what dealer offered you a new what at MSRP for 148 what?

The MSRP on a cs is $118k.


This is getting boring.
You, I mean.

You realize that 118 is American right?

I have told you I’m talking in Canadian dollars like 10 times.

Maybe you didn’t make the list for your own m3cs. That’s too bad

[ishowerinjager]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Is that it?
Anything else?

Why do I care.
You responded to me.

Talk American dollars.

My goal through all of this was to eventually get you not to judge something before you actually know anything about it.

That’s about it.

You must be a fun guy to have a beer with with. I’m sure the bros are lining up.

[DC2RtoCT9Atof87]

Lots of hostile keyboard warriors out.

It’s not a new car. It’s an incremental step.

It will be faster. It will probably drive better. Whether 20k premium is worth it over a decent spec Xdrive is up to the buyer.

/thread

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by DC2RtoCT9Atof87

Honestly. People are b*tching and moaning they can do XYX to their G80 to make it better/faster than the CS but we know that the suspension tuning/differential tuning/intangible programming that is done that cannot be done as aftermarket. IE, there will be some vehicle dynamics that cannot be replicated. Unless I am wrong, I know of no tuner that can do this to the ECU. Time will only tell if what BMW did adds up to a vastly superior car, until then, I think people should temper their poopoo (jealousy?) parade.

The point is, out of the box, it is and will be faster than the rest of the g80 line up. Any future CS owner can quip back and can do the same mods…

I am not sure if I’ll keep my allocation (only if I get a say in the spec), but I don’t plan on mod’ing it at all.

Edit- same bias happened when the CTR LE came out, but I’d say y’all bmw owners are more fired up about this.

Hey man, I never bitched and moaned and, I never said I could do XYX, but I did suggest I could do YXY 🤣🤣

Just teasing mate - I agree with you 200% and therefore, I'm tempering my poopoo parade right now 🤪😉🤪

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by FISH22

The more I think about it, the more I get excited about negative posts… more cars for me to select from down the road. …….



Yes, complete pile of crap this CS. Stay away. Junk.

WAY2GO brother

Shit car for sure

[4DRS55]

IMO I believe the F80 CS didn’t sell as well bc you had a choice of a manual with the comp F80. If the F80 CS had an optional manual they would have been extremely desirable and probably hard to get. Now with the G80 you can only get a manual with a base model therefore the Comp being more desirable and the CS even more so. For those that say the CS looks ugly compared to the G80 model are smoking something! It literally looks the same with some cosmetic upgrades. We really can’t make any judgments on how it drives until it has been reviewed.


But as FISH22 says the car is shit people, please do not order one save some for fools like me.