Rumor: Next gen 2020 BMW M3 / M4 hybrid

Bosozoku · 08-15-2015, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

[...] And let me be the first to say ... AWD. 2 electric front wheels for off the line traction and instantaneous shredding, 2 burn rubbery rear wheels for everything else. It ain't that hard BMW. And then I don't have to buy no stinking snow tires!!!!

BMW might have a 5 Series Power eDrive hybrid like that running already (emphasis Bimmerpost's):

"The total output comes to at least 670 bhp, with over 1,000Nm torque (737 lb-ft). *If* it made production in this form, this would be the most powerful BMW production powertrain ever!"

Full Bimmerpost article:

http://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1134676

verruckt · 08-15-2015, 01:55 PM

I dunno about that and not sure I'd jump on it...

That said it is the way of the future now. If they did AWD, and mainly carbon structure this thing could FLY.

The downside is it will be immensely expensive, far more than the current generation.

Vanmarsenille · 08-15-2015, 02:03 PM

I suspected when the F80 came out that my current E93 M3 would be my last BMW. This has confirmed it.

MDIVISION · 08-15-2015, 02:11 PM

Great. Get ready to be in the service drive every other day since ALL BMW Hybrids are there constantly.

SCOTT26 · 08-15-2015, 02:19 PM

Inevitable.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 08-15-2015, 02:23 PM

With BMW going the modular route, I see an improvement in reliability. This is the technology that we see on the 918, LaFerrari, and P1. For BMW to offer this on a car that is 1/4 of those in terms of price is amazing. Can't wait for a Carbon Core M3!

bradleyland · 08-15-2015, 02:24 PM

Queue the apocalypse lol

ORIGIN M. · 08-15-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Inevitable.

While I do not disagree w you.

Id really like a 100% Electric Z-Car !

Transfer · 08-15-2015, 02:26 PM

This I could get into, especially if there is an AWD-light drivetrain. It rains too much here for 400+ HP RWD.

The Automotive Enthusiast · 08-15-2015, 02:29 PM

I'm interested to know how much horsepower the electric motors would add. Is the M3 going to get another minor bump in horsepower? 450? 480? The M3 struggles to get all the power down as is, I think the next step is to introduce some form of AWD.

jphughan · 08-15-2015, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanmarsenille

I suspected when the F80 came out that my current E93 M3 would be my last BMW. This has confirmed it.

Yep, and this makes me even more glad I'm getting a GT4. I'm sure electrified performance can be fun and I'm also sure there won't be any alternative before too much longer, but I'm going to enjoy NA gas-only power as long as I can, by which time electric cars will only have gotten better.

V8Beast · 08-15-2015, 02:52 PM

Nothing will come close to the e92 V8! 😕 I'm a bit of a purist. It just ain't the same. ..that V8 rumble. ...aaaaaah.. and then an ESS VT2 supercharger on top and we're in Ferrari territory! Now give me a naturally aspirated V8 with a hybrid drivetrain and I'm all ears 😎

bk_g80_m3 · 08-15-2015, 02:57 PM

Woohoo 4500lb M3 here we come! Keep your E46 and E9X nice. I expect those prices to spike in the next 10 years.

bluekn8286 · 08-15-2015, 03:17 PM

Stockpile the classic M3s while you can, the value of those cars are going to go through the roof!

M3guy3 · 08-15-2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fjork_duf

Woohoo 4500lb M3 here we come! Keep your E46 and E9X nice. I expect those prices to spike in the next 10 years.

with a huge push for more environmental friendly engines. one would think that the old style engines would be sought after.

my problem is that i see gas become more expensive, and at some point not available at a mass level like it is today.

this generation went turbo, next goes electric and turbo, next goes full electric.

mcman · 08-15-2015, 03:25 PM

about time...

efficient turbo ice, electric motor to compensate for turbo lag - yes, please.

Needsdecaf · 08-15-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boxsterSF

This is really smart. Audi will do it the other way with electric rear, gasoline front. Will be interesting to see which is better on track. My gut tells me electric on the rear wheels is better for torque vectoring. In either car the batteries will go in the trunk, evening out the weight balance.

This is the layout for the current Acura RLX Hybrid and it is decidedly not sporting.

Falafel Combo · 08-15-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

With BMW going the modular route, I see an improvement in reliability. This is the technology that we see on the 918, LaFerrari, and P1. For BMW to offer this on a car that is 1/4 of those in terms of price is amazing. Can't wait for a Carbon Core M3!

Exactly!!!

MforLove · 08-15-2015, 03:35 PM

Only thing i ask is for that exhaust loud and angry please!

jaehshim · 08-15-2015, 03:37 PM

def no surprise here, seeing the way BMW has moved.
as much as I love the NA M engines, it's old and we gotta accept it
and we know electric hybrid will be more efficient + perform better than FI engines for sure.

IB M · 08-15-2015, 03:38 PM

Make it AWD then like the 918.

chipotle_napkins · 08-15-2015, 03:38 PM

As long as the engine is or is bigger than a 4 banger. I'm not ready to drive a glorified Prius if not

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