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      07-07-2020, 07:37 PM   #89
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I am starting to really like this direction BMW has taken. Yes it's completely different, but that's the point! It's to start the next generation of BMW design. Most people don't understand BMW or have done there homework on the history of BMW. If you do that you will see BMW has changed there cars with each generation leap. This being an M car not a M-sport but a true M. It had to be different to start the next chapter for BMW.

You have people here who will buy BMW for the NAME-
You have people here who will buy BMW for the Performance-

Then you have people who buy BMW not for just the car or how it looks but because you want to own something that has history and was a part of racing history. Most young people who buy BMW don't even understand what they are buying they just think it's something cool!


As always all the haters who don't like it now! When they see one in person or it's been modified- They will be the first to run and buy one lol
I don't know what are you mumbling in here but there are people who will buy a car for performance and looks; together. Others can do it. Except BMW...

A performant car that looks like a pig is not everyone's taste. And when people laugh at you, you can not show them a list with technical specs nor say "Hey, I bought it for performance."
Or you would put stickers on it "I am beautiful inside"? (even that one sucks too lately)...
Screw that. Looks is actually more than performance. And if I truly want performance, there are many out there.
I bought the BMW for the package as whole, a benchmark "sporty sedan". BMW design was always neutral, not to warm, not too cold, just perfect balance for a normal looking sedan with a little badge on the corner. Now is an obnoxious pig.
Design ignites passion, feelings, desire.
Design is the tool that makes that performance package attractive. Otherwise, we can buy Elon's truck.
Honestly, if the design is that terrible -like in this case- I am not interested.
You can put whatever color and whatever performance in it.
I will buy the new RS6 and I will be happy with my purchase as it will make me happy to own it.

A piece of history?
If I buy a new car is not a "piece of history". And not lately with CLAR FWD platforms, no true RWD biased xDrive but a FWD Haldex instead, no corona rings, no Hofmeister kink, Z4 Fiat headlights, Lexus tail lights, etc, etc.
So what history are we talking about anyway?
Technical there is little history, design-wise the history is thrown in the garbage.

If I want history, I buy a late 1950 BMW 507, a E9 3.0 CSI, an E30 M3, or a very old model. That is history.

Otherwise, lots have history but don't shine today.
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      07-07-2020, 07:45 PM   #90
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I don't know what are you mumbling in here but there are people who will buy a car for performance and looks; together. Others can do it. Except BMW...

A performant car that looks like a pig is not everyone's taste. And when people laugh at you, you can not show them a list with technical specs nor say "Hey, I bought it for performance."
Or you would put stickers on it "I am beautiful inside"? (even that one sucks too lately)...
Screw that. Looks is actually more than performance. And if I truly want performance, there are many out there.
I bought the BMW for the package as whole, a benchmark "sporty sedan". BMW design was always neutral, not to warm, not too cold, just perfect balance for a normal looking sedan with a little badge on the corner. Now is an obnoxious pig.
Design ignites passion, feelings, desire.
Design is the tool that makes that performance package attractive. Otherwise, we can buy Elon's truck.
Honestly, if the design is that terrible -like in this case- I am not interested.
You can put whatever color and whatever performance in it.
I will buy the new RS6 and I will be happy with my purchase as it will make me happy to own it.

A piece of history?
If I buy a new car is not a "piece of history". And not lately with CLAR FWD platforms, no true RWD biased xDrive but a FWD Haldex instead, no corona rings, no Hofmeister kink, Z4 Fiat headlights, Lexus tail lights, etc, etc.
So what history are we talking about anyway?
Technical there is little history, design-wise the history is thrown in the garbage.

If I want history, I buy a late 1950 BMW 507, a E9 3.0 CSI, an E30 M3, or a very old model. That is history.

Otherwise, lots have history but don't shine today.
I can appreciate a lot of OP's points, however I don't feel most people are buying today's BMW M cars for their racing history and heritage as that has been long since diluted with MSport and SUVs.

BMW Motorsport was probably at the top of their racing game throughout the entire 1970s Then came the M1, the car that put BMW M on the map followed by bleed-in of race-inspired M cars into the 80's *when I got my license I really dont think there has been a history-inspired M car for about 15-20 years.
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      07-07-2020, 08:17 PM   #91
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I can't believe people don't like this. It's actually shocking to me. I am def in love here. Just like when I first saw the F80.
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      07-07-2020, 08:43 PM   #93
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Godammit it is growing on me for some stupid ass odd reason! maybe it's cz I keep seeing it on the front page constantly...
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Hideous. The fried egg of BMW will be coffin sniffers.

Yikes. One can only hope it weighs 3k lbs to mKe up for this
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All i see is a big ass fat buck grille. Am I missing something 🤷🏻*♂️
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Just because Audi jumps off a bridge doesn't mean you have to as well, BMW. Just like drugs, say no!

Also, grille looks even dumber with the radar sensor installed in one half of the beaver tooth.
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Almost every car company is doing big grill now.

Not sure what all the fuss is with BMW joining in.

But that ACC off center is definitely an issue though.

Also why does every ICE use these big ACC modules and Tesla doesn't.
Different implementation. Tesla uses an camera based AI system. There is no radar used at all. Guess which is harder to develop? Also, BMW isn't designing their own system per se, the OE suppliers are doing it for them. Tesla designed and engineered their own system so there is that.
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I can't believe people don't like this. It's actually shocking to me. I am def in love here. Just like when I first saw the F80.
Not sure how you're shocked. It's practically the exact opposite of the F80. I'm more surprised anyone liking an F80 likes this. Going from clean and sleek to gaudy and busy. This is BMWs 996 imo
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      07-07-2020, 09:38 PM   #99
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damn you g80...you knock me from the front page lead story after only a few hours!!!

However, i gotta say, i'm sorta diggin it!
what is interesting, is that it makes the f80 look dated, as you look side by side on the front page.

To be honest at this point, i just want to see in the flesh. See how we can make it look good.
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Welp, that confirms it 100%. The F80 is the best looking turbo M3
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I don't know what are you mumbling in here but there are people who will buy a car for performance and looks; together. Others can do it. Except BMW...

A performant car that looks like a pig is not everyone's taste. And when people laugh at you, you can not show them a list with technical specs nor say "Hey, I bought it for performance."
Or you would put stickers on it "I am beautiful inside"? (even that one sucks too lately)...
Screw that. Looks is actually more than performance. And if I truly want performance, there are many out there.
I bought the BMW for the package as whole, a benchmark "sporty sedan". BMW design was always neutral, not to warm, not too cold, just perfect balance for a normal looking sedan with a little badge on the corner. Now is an obnoxious pig.
Design ignites passion, feelings, desire.
Design is the tool that makes that performance package attractive. Otherwise, we can buy Elon's truck.
Honestly, if the design is that terrible -like in this case- I am not interested.
You can put whatever color and whatever performance in it.
I will buy the new RS6 and I will be happy with my purchase as it will make me happy to own it.

A piece of history?
If I buy a new car is not a "piece of history". And not lately with CLAR FWD platforms, no true RWD biased xDrive but a FWD Haldex instead, no corona rings, no Hofmeister kink, Z4 Fiat headlights, Lexus tail lights, etc, etc.
So what history are we talking about anyway?
Technical there is little history, design-wise the history is thrown in the garbage.

If I want history, I buy a late 1950 BMW 507, a E9 3.0 CSI, an E30 M3, or a very old model. That is history.

Otherwise, lots have history but don't shine today.
So much hurt in this post, i can almost feel it.

Alot of you live in the past. Hardly anyone has accepted the fact that times change and so do companies visions and priorities.
The BMW of yesterday with hoffmeister kink, angel eyes etc. is just that. The BMW of 'Yesterday'. People like yourself have a very hard time moving on from that.

Half these threads are people moaning about the design. It's not going to change and the moaning won't make BMW change their vision or pull the launch to rework the design.

The majority of potential customers don't frequent these boards or forums. They will buy anything BMW puts a badge on so you 'boycotting' a new M3 makes no difference. There will be thousands more lining up to buy one on launch day.
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Really baffled how people can label this as "aggressive" or as the title says "looking aggressive" ... like how much did they pay u for that opinion. I'm seriously, totally, baffled. Aggressive compared to what? A pink VW w the flower cupholder on the dash? Ok, sure, congrats. *sigh*
Yeah I agree. I'll take ugly and aggressive, or bold and ugly all day. Based on the leaks and spyshots, this is shaping up to be boring and ugly. Looks like a pretty generic front end with gigantic grilles plastered on like an afterthought. Rear also looks boring/generic based on the leaks.
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How is this aggressive?
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Can't wait to see it. If I like it, then I'll let my 2020 R35 GTR go for it. It's definitely growing on me!
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Can't wait to see it. If I like it, then I'll let my 2020 R35 GTR go for it. It's definitely growing on me!
The GT-R?! How come?
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      07-07-2020, 11:38 PM   #108
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The GT-R?! How come?
The current GT-R is old, and the tech is outdated

But regardless Nissan is BK bound, and is a very corrupt car company

I wouldn’t buy any Nissan, let alone a GT-R moving forward
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[The current GT-R is old, and the tech is outdated

But regardless Nissan is BK bound, and is a very corrupt car company

I wouldn’t buy any Nissan, let alone a GT-R moving forward
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