[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by reNT

This is another one of those threads where the OP pretends to ask for advice but really had already made the decision and just wants to be told what they want to hear. This is going nowhere, let's lock this down.

Or he can only get rwd but really wants awd so he needs reassurance from rwd people.

I have a rwd comp and I wish I got the x drive because it’s better lol

[reNT]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Or he can only get rwd but really wants awd so he needs reassurance from rwd people.

I have a rwd comp and I wish I got the x drive because it’s better lol

If the RWD is all that he can afford, then he should not be getting the G80 at all. If the budget is so tight that a few grand in price makes a big difference, then you need a bigger budget to begin with.

[ASAP]

Are folks really thinking this is a budget issue lol? This would be a purchase with a 70% equity position... not sure how many folks are in that position on this forum... not that it is any of my business.

[Aalfred]

Originally Posted by reNT

This is another one of those threads where the OP pretends to ask for advice but really had already made the decision and just wants to be told what they want to hear. This is going nowhere, let's lock this down.

Its looking like this from page 2 and yet here we are. Its funny to read all the back and forth when the OP clearly has made up his decision on the RWD and wants us to convince him to go with the AWD. Feel like im in a high school debate team. Gettcha popcorn ready...lol

[vj123]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Are folks really thinking this is a budget issue lol?

Its another way to say, hey i spent $5k more

[reNT]

Originally Posted by Aalfred

Its looking like this from page 2 and yet here we are. Its funny to read all the back and forth when the OP clearly has made up his decision on the RWD and wants us to convince him to go with the AWD. Feel like im in a high school debate team. Gettcha popcorn ready...lol

Yeah, what's that quote about arguing on the internet? "...even if you win, you are still..."

[Aalfred]

Originally Posted by reNT

Yeah, what's that quote about arguing on the internet? "...even if you win, you are still..."

I dont mind the questions but its soo subjective that even if we answer the questions, unless he drives it himself and feels it, there is no convincing yourself. Most of us bought the cars without even test driving it and so, to be able to test drive an Xdrive and a RWD back to back will be like hitting the Powerball lottery. So there lies the first issue. The second is there r people who drove both and gave their answers but he isnt buying it.

"A few questions-

1) Can you feel the weight difference?
2) Is the RWD car wilder, twitchier and feels more alive?
3) Are there any traction issues from a launch with the RWD model on warm days and good pavement?


I don't want this to be a bro get the Xdrive, its way better blah blah... because according to my drive yesterday, it definitely isn't for me. I just need objective answers to the 3 above."

so if the RWD handles the same, I guess he isnt buying a G80. So wouldnt u want to test drive it yourself first BEFORE you make such a decision. I searched cars.com and there are 2 RWD G80 within 10 miles of Miami. So maybe better off to make that drive and see for yourself. In the meantime, we can enjoy the banter for some more time.

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by ASAP

not saying you are wrong but I am repeating the question - why does BMW have 3 versions of this car? even more so when 2 of them are borderline identical with the ability to switch modes

Just guessing here but I think part of it is clinging onto some heritage to keep buyers happy. When they made the switch to AWD for the M5, they were very keen to point out “hey guys, you can turn it off and still slide around!” which went some way to satisfy the folks who were into that kind of thing. Similar story with the M3, however they are clearly more committed to having a 6MT available for the smaller cars. Being incompatible (or at least without more development dollars) with xDrive, they then have to offer the car in rwd form as well. May as well have a RWD auto comp at that point too since the hardware differences are minimal, just toying with configurations really. Iirc the xDrive model wasn’t available the first year as well. Can only guess what that means for their business, but for us folks on the outside it’s great to have choices

Originally Posted by ASAP

did you forget the 1 trim above the CS... aka the M4 CSL, the one that is the fastest bmw ever around the ring... that is somehow RWD only?
…

To be fair, the CSL is also making more power, on stickier rubber, and has other weight saving measures outside of being RWD (no rear seats, CF panels, etc..).

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by Aalfred

Its looking like this from page 2 and yet here we are. Its funny to read all the back and forth when the OP clearly has made up his decision on the RWD and wants us to convince him to go with the AWD. Feel like im in a high school debate team. Gettcha popcorn ready...lol

Word.
Share the popcorn 😃

OP is hilariously insecure about his equity position. Let's go

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by reNT

If the RWD is all that he can afford, then he should not be getting the G80 at all. If the budget is so tight that a few grand in price makes a big difference, then you need a bigger budget to begin with.

Hence my standing advice for him to get a Golf 🖖

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by reNT

If the RWD is all that he can afford, then he should not be getting the G80 at all. If the budget is so tight that a few grand in price makes a big difference, then you need a bigger budget to begin with.

Nah I don’t think it’s that. It’s only a 4K difference anyway.

I just think it has something to do with what he can get NOW vs what he really wants but has to wait for it.

Meaning there’s probably a rwd comp he can pick up now instead of waiting for an x drive 8-12 months or however long it takes now.

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by ASAP

did you forget the 1 trim above the CS... aka the M4 CSL, the one that is the fastest bmw ever around the ring... that is somehow RWD only?

If that's your main argument for RWD then you are done.
Comparing a much lighter, much more powerful car on Cup2s with a regular G80 on Ps4s, whether awd or rwd, has absolutely nothing to do with your little discussion here. You can't be that desperate to save 5k can you

[Reprosal]

I drove an F82 base (downpipes and JB1) for roughly 8000 miles and now drive a G80 xDrive around the same mileage.

I honestly feel like the 425hp RWD had more butt dyno than the 503hp xDrive. 91 octane only so the JB1 and pipes wouldn’t have made it much over 500 hp.

I like the xDrive aspect personally because it’s going to be my daily in Saskatchewan winters. That being said, if you want ‘fun’ and ‘engaging’, you should opt for the 6MT.

[G MONEY]

Let him buy the slow manual, then in ) 6-12 months there will be a nice low mileage one for sale for the next guy who doesn’t want to go fast

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by ASAP

Are folks really thinking this is a budget issue lol? This would be a purchase with a 70% equity position... not sure how many folks are in that position on this forum... not that it is any of my business.

A LOT more than you think. $65k isn’t even half my yearly vacation budget.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Gfit

A LOT more than you think. $65k isn’t even half my yearly vacation budget.

I hear that. Escorts ain’t cheap no more:-) YOLO🤣

[kjx]

Originally Posted by ASAP

I supposed the dumber question here is... if that was the case... why does BMW even make the COMP Rwd anymore? You'd figure the enthusiast will choose the 6mt option... the guys that wants it all the AWD option... and if they want RWD, they can just switch, right?

They probably do it because someone somewhere has it in their head that RWD is “pure” and the M xDrive will not satisfy them. It turns out there are at least a few who want the non-MT RWD car. The objective reasons for not picking the RWD don’t matter - $80 - $120k to BMW is still good money. BMW is happy. The customer is delusionally happy as they don’t feel like BMW took away their choice. Until they try to get validation for such decisions in a forum of knowledgeable owners. The automatic RWD is likely a transitional SKU that won’t exist in the next generation given broad acceptance of M xDrive.

[Kminor2578]

I have a RWD and yes it’s twitchy, it can catch you off guard at times. Not as twitchy as my F80 that thing just dreamed about killing me.

However,
I only got the RWD because I’m impatient and ordered it as soon as they were released in 2021. I would much rather have an xdrive.

[JDUNITNOW]

Originally Posted by ASAP

i think you just told me everything I needed to know lmao

I don't know ow if this helps but I bought the RWD for a few reasons, my friend and bmw mechanic said there is no reason to buy a xdrive and rwd will have plenty of grip. He said learn how to drive the car and I did. Number two, I wanted to stay at 80k max for car and that was my budget and I don't give a f@#$ what anybody thinks of my financial capabilities. Number three, when I ordered my car in 21, RWD allocation was available without a waiting. I don't regret one day of having a RWD and it's a beast on the back roads and my skill level and the amount of grip this car has is phenomenal.

[iviegatron]

I'll give you my opinion. Take it with a grain of salt. I had the RWD version for over a year until it got totalled due to hydroplane. While I had it I was able to break traction easily. Third gear and below the car would fish tail if you accelerate hard. I used to be very careful when turning left or right not to accelerate too much to prevent spin out. During rainy days at times I felt I had no traction, this may be due to Pirellis at the time but it was a scary feeling. The car honestly kept me at edge while driving. On dry pavement it was more predictable.

I have driven the xdrive version multiple times and it feels like the car is on rails. Plus you get the option to decouple the front wheels to turn it into RWD mode. I've ordered a new M3 since my accident and I went with xdrive and the M professional package. Luckily I get the chance to do it all over again and it's xdrive for me.

[Boogie2121]

AWD, coils, bootmod. Dont over think it.

[Stan Dee]

Interestingly, given the number of publicised reviews, tests, comparisons on the G8X over the last year or two, I've not seen a single comparison between RWD and AWD (in RWD mode). It seems like a contributory factor for some in choosing AWD that you can switch to RWD only, but actually, how does it perform and handle in RWD mode and does it give you a comparative experience to pure RWD. Difference is probably subtle and not suggesting this would alter anyone's decision making on the subject, but I would be interested to know if there was much difference?