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      06-04-2021, 11:59 AM   #23
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Not sure I like that instrument cluster for the M3...it's too...EV!

I was focused on the screen but didn't realize the HVAC and radio controls are gone.
That would be terrible. That's what the kids want though. Eyes on the screen.
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      06-04-2021, 12:01 PM   #24
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So it's basically a M3 comp with manual?

Now we know why they tuned it the way they did, so they could release this.
Wasn't there an engineer in one of the educational videos they put out that said it couldn't handle the competition spec torque?
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If it's the screen and tail light refresh that is a-okay with me. I like the taillights on the G82 now, but if they have nicer ones then I will get them as an upgrade. I, personally, am not a fan of that MB style long screen in the car.
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It seemed like the previous generation M3 cs was not a strong seller. Maybe priced out of the segment. I wonder if this version will fare better?
Today's market is much stronger than 2018, assuming it holds for another couple of years.

The M2 CS sold out pretty quickly at a $20-25K premium to the M2C.

The biggest factors will be if it will truly be offered with a 6MT and if they redesign the polarizing grille/hood.

Edit: And it would be nice if they can drop 100lbs or so.
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About time!

Who had any info on LCI? And why it's so soon?
Uh because the car is heinous?
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So it's basically a M3 comp with manual?

Now we know why they tuned it the way they did, so they could release this.
A CS is never "just" a Comp+ it's a lot more than that. Limited numbers means few will ever know that.
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It seemed like the previous generation M3 cs was not a strong seller. Maybe priced out of the segment. I wonder if this version will fare better?
The price issue and limited numbers meant very few people got to experience and understand just how great the CS was and how superior to the other models it was. Same goes for the M2 CS. Any CS or CSL they release will be no latest greatest novelty upgrade I assure you. It's the one to wait for.
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SIAP: Motor1 article on CS/CSL mentions 6MT

Pretty happy if this is true, although the article is about the M4, I am hoping the same would apply to the M3. I know this is just a rumor, but that would be epic if a lighter CS was available with 6MT/RWD.

https://www.motor1.com/news/511541/bmw-m4-cs-csl-spied/

"Rumors suggest BMW will pair the potent mill with a six-speed manual gearbox and rear-wheel drive."
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Sounds like a 6MT
Might not even be a M3 CS prototype either
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Might not even be a M3 CS prototype either
That's what I figured, it does not look like one. Thanks for confirming.
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Probably a small change to tail lights since the m3 headlights are different anyway - you can just upgrade those yourself I suppose.
New tail light graphics plus supposedly that new slick instrument cluster+navi screen combo from the i4. Similar to Benz's current set up.
Not sure I like that instrument cluster for the M3...it's too...EV!

I'm sure I dislike it.
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I would be disappointed if there was an LCI next year already
Unfortunately that was the single most predictable thing about the G80 lifecycle.

M's decision to co-launch the G80 with the G82 meant first year buyers would once again be relegated to pre-LCI history within a year given the G20 donor car was already a few years old at M3 launch.

When it happened to my F80 year 1 model and the year 2 LCI model's price also dropped to rub salt into the wounds (causing an instant depreciation hit) I complained to BMW Aus and got an extended warranty.
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Might not even be a M3 CS prototype either
That's what I figured, it does not look like one. Thanks for confirming.
G8x CS variants shouldn't come until after the M4 CSL; doesn't prevent special/limited edition models before that however.
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It seemed like the previous generation M3 cs was not a strong seller. Maybe priced out of the segment. I wonder if this version will fare better?
Today's market is much stronger than 2018, assuming it holds for another couple of years.

The M2 CS sold out pretty quickly at a $20-25K premium to the M2C.

The biggest factors will be if it will truly be offered with a 6MT and if they redesign the polarizing grille/hood.

Edit: And it would be nice if they can drop 100lbs or so.
M2cs is different. M2C had detuned engine and lacked adaptive suspension. One could believe the M2CS was the car as it was meant to be without being purposely held back.

The M3C however isn't perceived as dumbed down version of the car with the CS being the cars true form.
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M2cs is different. M2C had detuned engine and lacked adaptive suspension. One could believe the M2CS was the car as it was meant to be without being purposely held back.

The M3C however isn't perceived as dumbed down version of the car with the CS being the cars true form.
Truth be told, the F80 M3cs was a last minute afterthought aimed particularly at the US market, taking the M4cs mechanicals with the M3-30-jahre interior.
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LCI already?
Never seen this before, last M3 LCI came after a few years.
Is this because BMW already delayed launching the G series M3 to the point that they have to now jump straight to an LCI G series M3?
Are there exterior updates expected?
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About time!

Who had any info on LCI? And why it's so soon?
To line up with the regular 3 series LCI, that car is entering its 4th year in production, happened with the f80 as well
Just the rear. The F80 had an LCI 2.0 when the 4 series (with which it shares its front fascia) get a refresh.
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This is exactly why I didn't bother trying to get the first year model m3, LCI was around the corner because of the g20 being out a few years. I think a G80 m3 cs is definetely worth getting if they make the hood nicer -- the hood is my biggest beef with the current m3.
In person, in a light color the hood looks amazing. Sure, everyone missed the powerdome, but unless we get a new engine they're not adding a powerdome to any LCI or CS models.
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Sounds like a 6MT
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M2cs is different. M2C had detuned engine and lacked adaptive suspension. One could believe the M2CS was the car as it was meant to be without being purposely held back.

The M3C however isn't perceived as dumbed down version of the car with the CS being the cars true form.
Truth be told, the F80 M3cs was a last minute afterthought aimed particularly at the US market, taking the M4cs mechanicals with the M3-30-jahre interior.
Compromise is a better description. The acceleration of EU6d threw a wrench into everything. F80 CS was dialed back a smidge, F82 CS had its production rescheduled and split by region, F87 CS is different than what was intended as well.
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Hmmm most recent spy shots if other G8x models showed the grills but this one isn’t. What’s the likelihood of some sort of refresh for the grills?
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G8x CS variants shouldn't come until after the M4 CSL; doesn't prevent special/limited edition models before that however.
A special manual M3? M3 Pure?
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