[MachinesWithSouls]

I loved this review, which jives with what I originally said about the car back in February.

One note about the F80 - every M3 in the past has been so different from each other. 4 cylinder, 6, V8, stick, SMG, DCT - hard to compare them and say one is objectively better.

But now, the G80 is the first time that the prior gen has been so similar, from a mechanical standpoint. It's just a better car once you drive it. Styling is always subjective.

https://machineswithsouls.com/2021/0...g80-m3-review/

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by PeterY

How did the F80 not succeed at anything? haha, it was easily the best car in its class!

That's why I don't take any car show seriously, they're just for entertainment purpose.

The presenters always make blanket statements like that. They don't own the cars, they haven't lived with them for a few years. They're providing their opinion based on a 4hr test drive!

Agreed, the F80 did a lot of things really well, especially the later years. My CS is one of the best cars is the 2nd best car I've ever driven behind my G80.

[buckybadger]

Best video so far!

[BMWRL]

Great video!

Man that E30 is just so beautiful to look at, in motion and standing still. It's just perfect design wise.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by RideM

The real successor to the original idea behind the M3?

For $90k??
Could buy a good % of all NA allocations of the original M3...

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by PeterY

How did the F80 not succeed at anything? haha, it was easily the best car in its class!

That's why I don't take any car show seriously, they're just for entertainment purpose.

The presenters always make blanket statements like that. They don't own the cars, they haven't lived with them for a few years. They're providing their opinion based on a 4hr test drive!

Different platform, however, I lived with the G20 (M340i) for 9 months and was super happy to go back to the F8x platform as to me, even nicely balanced, the G2x platform was totally soulless...

I've spent some time in the G80 and yes, it is great, it is a beast, however, I felt that the F87 would have been better fit of what I am after...

[swampfox94]

Originally Posted by DFW_M2C

For $90k??
Could buy a good % of all NA allocations of the original M3...

Original price of the e30 m3 was $35k. Adjusted for infatuation that's puts it right about 69k. So between the price of the m2c and cs

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by DFW_M2C

For $90k??
Could buy a good % of all NA allocations of the original M3...

90k in 2021 was $36.6k in 1986...which is a couple k more than the original M3 (around $34k, I think?). The current G80 M3 Manual starts cheaper than the E30 M3 did, inflation adjusted. Depending on options :-)

[Jimjamz]

How good are his reviews

I learned more in these 20 mins than all other M3 videos I've watched. Great production value, information, entertainment and a pure joy to watch.

5/5 stars on the driftometer!

[therealm3]

Great review. Really makes me miss my e30 m3.

Can't wait to see how the g87 does with this M3 drive train.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by EXE46

As the man says, it's the best iteration he's driven. mike drop!! and Randy would know. G8X is similar to how I feel about the G2X, incredible chassis and this is coming from an E46 fanboy.

…but those who dislike the G8X will suddenly discount Pobst because it doesn't fit within their narrative. We all recognize Pobst as being the real deal.

[RBNetEngr]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

"Epic" video! (Turn on closed captions for some Easter egg commentary.)

I told skeptical local members of BMWCCA ... this is the M3 the engineers of all of the old cars were trying to build.

Regardless of what you think of the grilles, if you're a fan of the brand, you owe it to yourself to take one out on a vigorous test drive. Just drive it!

I’ll be testing it out next month on the COTA track for BMW M Track Days.

[JWG80M3]

I'm brand new to BMW…but I've wanted one since I was a teenager. At that time, the E30 and the E36 were what I fell in love with. Now, in my mid-40s, I'm actually able to afford an M3…brand new and exactly as I want it. I'm a huge fan of Jason Cammisa's automotive reporting and love how he provides a thorough history in this review. From my perspective, the best feedback he provides is at about 20:27 where he say's "here's how…just ignore the badge…this thing is epic…". You can nit-pick anything to death and eventually you'll ruin your enjoyment of it. I don't think we should expect perfection, nor do I think it's helpful to always compare future generations of a car to a "G.O.A.T". Take it for what it is today, appreciate where it came from, and enjoy it now and into the future…I know I will.

[gemini.m3]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

CS owners are the most resistant to the G80. They went from being the "kings" of the F80 to just another owner of a prior gen m3. No better than people that own a limerock E92 lol.

FYI, I still own my CS so I'm allowed to talk sh*t.

Mmm yea the new generation will be better than even a prior cs model but the exclusivity of having a non mass produced car still holds some value for folks. I’ve had crazy thoughts of trading my m2 cs for a g80 comp but then I remember why I got out of my f80 comp to begin with and it primarily didn’t feel special enough unless you’re doing some individual paint

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by deceptiv-cs

Mmm yea the new generation will be better than even a prior cs model but the exclusivity of having a non mass produced car still holds some value for folks. I’ve had crazy thoughts of trading my m2 cs for a g80 comp but then I remember why I got out of my f80 comp to begin with and it primarily didn’t feel special enough unless you’re doing some individual paint

Don't sell the M2C or CS while you can.
These are rare beasts.

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

…but those who dislike the G8X will suddenly discount Pobst because it doesn't fit within their narrative. We all recognize Pobst as being the real deal.

Happy Friday man!! we resolve to just ignore the noise, some people you just can't reach.

[Wanderer73]

Super entertaining. Thanks for sharing.

[dialogical]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

Agreed, the F80 did a lot of things really well, especially the later years. My CS is one of the best cars is the 2nd best car I've ever driven behind my G80.

The F80 may be a good car, but once you take it out of a vacuum it gets obliterated. The early versions were especially bad.

There's no reason an M3 should get out-handled by a base SS Camaro, but it happened.

[Peertwelve]

Originally Posted by M3AWD

I'm surprised a pro like Randy drove the comp in full auto, and then complained about it not always being in the right gear. If that happens to any driver in any car on any track, the first thing you would do is switch it to manual and take control, specially if that's affecting track times

Out of several autos I've driven (spirited driving, not track) I feel BMW's transmissions communicate well with the driver and hold gear when necessary and quickly learn what the driver wants to do. But of course they'll never be as good as the driver selecting the right gear.

That's a fantastic video by the way!

I wonder if he was comparing it to the dct in auto mode? Great video!

[Obioban]

Originally Posted by MachinesWithSouls

One note about the F80 - every M3 in the past has been so different from each other. 4 cylinder, 6, V8, stick, SMG, DCT - hard to compare them and say one is objectively better.

e46 is very much an updated/improved e36.

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by Obioban

e46 is very much an updated/improved e36.

Ironically, lots of E36 guys initially bashed the E46 for the same reasons F8x guys bash the G8x. Too heavy, too luxury, a cruiser instead of a sports car ... even the looks were considered by some to be overdone and too much of a departure (though obviously nowhere near the revolt we’ve seen with the G cars). Also, lots of people were disappointed it wasn’t going to be powered by a V8.

[GratefulM5]

I'mooo