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      05-28-2021, 06:49 PM   #23
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F80 is a complete package - daily drivability plus performance - at the right price point. It's a winner.
6 years ago. Sure.
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Interior and exterior, the M is the least attractive car in the comparison, followed by the Giulia. At least with the others, there is some angle that is appealing. The M just sucks from every angle. Can't get to performance if I have to get myself to like the styling. Such a disappointment.
It would be fine if you wrote something like 'for me' or 'in my opinion' at the end. But that way you wrote it, it's just trolling around for no reason and it's not even new, the same or similar BS has been done by hundreds before you in nearly every thread (hihi pig nose hihi that's so funny we need to repeat it as much as we can). As you see it didn't really contribute to the mood in the forum in a positive way. You see the result: toxic discussions and salty reactions.

I know a lot of people here in Germany that think the e36 (interior&exterior) was the most crappy thing that bmw ever made (I blame the compact for that) - I bet you'd disagree with them and that's fine.

I like the e36 and I like the g80 and I am happy that it finally has a better interior than my not so nice F82's one wich was only barley acceptable (for me) because it had the full leather option.

We all share the same passion but have different tastes, why can't we just all be kind+smart enough an accept that fact, come on, let's all be friends!

By the way, I am not a Merc fan, but losing that fantastic V8 makes my heart bleed
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Finally saw one IOM Green driving around, looks fantastic.
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Finally saw one IOM Green driving around, looks fantastic.
It adorns the G8X nicely.
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F80 is a complete package - daily drivability plus performance - at the right price point. It's a winner.
I assume you mean G80?

I was looking at F80's and their prices were so high I decided to go with a G80 instead! Made far more sense
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Nice, (not) Whilst I think the interior of the G80 is great the looks are very divisive to say the least, I've had every M3 since the e46 plus another 2 M cars 6 in total and another 7 BMWs but wouldn't but a G80.

I love Bimmers but really can't get with this one, that's no reason to start telling people to GTFO from behind your keyboard...grow up.
Everyone here has had 100 M3s and 1000 BMWs.

But that doesn’t give anyone reason to troll car forums of cars they have no interest in. I’m not going to go cruising into the 6 series GT forum talking about how big of a POS it is.
'cause it's on the front page brah.
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F80 is a complete package - daily drivability plus performance - at the right price point. It's a winner.
I assume you mean G80?

I was looking at F80's and their prices were so high I decided to go with a G80 instead! Made far more sense
Indeed - I meant G80. F and G are too close on my iPhone keyboard. Thanks for asking!
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I am not in the market for one of these cars, but having sedan, coupe, and wagon versions all mixed in seems weird.
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If BMW rights some of the atrocious design decisions for the LCI, then we could could have an all-timer here. Let's hope...
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If BMW rights some of the atrocious design decisions for the LCI, then we could could have an all-timer here. Let's hope...
They just unveiled the future of their electric program the i4 and the iX both with the same grills. But sure…LCI

The car is selling like hot cakes. If you don’t like the current looks of the G8X your winner” is probably on the parking lot of another car brand.
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Interior and exterior, the M is the least attractive car in the comparison, followed by the Giulia. At least with the others, there is some angle that is appealing. The M just sucks from every angle. Can't get to performance if I have to get myself to like the styling. Such a disappointment.
Then why are you here? Gtfo then
Why are you tryna kick him out? What is this, a place for G8x worship only? It's a public forum if you didn't know.
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If BMW rights some of the atrocious design decisions for the LCI, then we could could have an all-timer here. Let's hope...
They just unveiled the future of their electric program the i4 and the iX both with the same grills. But sure…LCI

The car is selling like hot cakes. If you don't like the current looks of the G8X your winner" is probably on the parking lot of another car brand.
I would agree. The car is selling. I think another brand would be the option if BMW's design direction isn't for you, generally speaking.
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Interior and exterior, the M is the least attractive car in the comparison, followed by the Giulia. At least with the others, there is some angle that is appealing. The M just sucks from every angle. Can't get to performance if I have to get myself to like the styling. Such a disappointment.
I could not disagree more.
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Probably how I would rank them as well. I think the top 3 are all wonderful cars and have their unique advantages. That BMW has taken back the lead is a huge credit to their engineering team. The design is polarizing, but that is what it takes to advance the status quo. The Alfa totally did that when they released the Guilia QV as well.
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If BMW rights some of the atrocious design decisions for the LCI, then we could could have an all-timer here. Let's hope...
They just unveiled the future of their electric program the i4 and the iX both with the same grills. But sure…LCI

The car is selling like hot cakes. If you don’t like the current looks of the G8X your winner” is probably on the parking lot of another car brand.
Or just get a different M. I did
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I would agree. The car is selling. I think another brand would be the option if BMW's design direction isn't for you, generally speaking.
Hmm, based on what I see at both dealerships that I visit regularly, they don’t sell like “hot cakes”. As per sales guys which I know, “the design is the main problem”.

I also bought a 2021 M340i Performance Edition instead due to the design. Even this one is not really blowing me away but the headlights are way nicer and more aggressive but elegant and the grills are nicer; at least it has a livable face. I am working to get the simpler Alpina grills so I can get rid of the “diamond” grills.

As an M replacement, after decades, I went with a different brand.
I just can not stand the face and the ultra cheap rear door/wheel arch which screams CHEAP as they were too cheap to make special rear doors that can flow with the hips in the back and make a distinctive look. Obviously they used the same sedan doors and bulked the back an left an area like it was done by me and my buddies in the garage.
The three colour leather interior, the design of the seats with too many parts and sewing, the bulk between the legs and too much protruded non-practical sides is another thing that I can not do. Nice for a day but that’s it. I am looking forward to see the wear and tear of those in a mater of a year or two. Forget about more.
Some of us would like a wolf in sheep clothes, with a beautiful simpler design instead of screaming lemon colours on the seats... Even if you don’t like it and need to go with a simple black, you are still forced to accept a grey velcro material on the sides....
I get the idea but is not elegant in any way. And if you want simpler seats, you don’t get that package. So, BMW can keep it.
I forced myself to like it, yet, I don’t take Viagra, so no, is not growing on me.
Forced myself towards the M5 as I love that thing, just to realize that is actually too big for my needs. Long gone are the days of the E46 or a nimble body dimensions. Still do not understand the needs of going bigger and bigger. Keep the niches as they are and people will buy what fits their lifestyle.

So yeah, it is what it is I guess...
I am a hard core BMW fan and I am actually hurt by their direction.

Nice car mechanically, but which I can never look at. I -personally- just can not bring one home. Sorry.

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Forced myself towards the M5 as I love that thing, just to realize that is actually too big for my needs. Long gone are the days of the E46 or a nimble body dimensions. Still do not understand the needs of going bigger and bigger. Keep the niches as they are and people will buy what fits their lifestyle.
The days of E46-sized vehicles aren't gone. It just says "2" on it instead of "3". Same reason the Honda brought out the Fit when the Civic and Accord grew, Merc lobbed the A-Class in to the mix as the C-class swelled, and Toyota tossed the Yaris at the US when the Corolla and Camry grew. (yes, I know that many of these smaller cars existed in their home markets before being tossed into the US product mix.)

Most of the car companies really have tried to keep covering the smaller segment of the market as general-public tastes swayed more towards larger cars again.

Most of the small cars that everyone harps on were themselves a change (in the US at least) from the land yachts of the 50's through the 70's. If the oil crisis and emissions regulations in the 70's hadn't happened, folk would not have flocked to the smaller cars from Europe and Japan the way they did.

Let go of excessive attachment to one particular model badge and buy the size of car that you want. I love that we have all the options we do.
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Interior and exterior, the M is the least attractive car in the comparison, followed by the Giulia. At least with the others, there is some angle that is appealing. The M just sucks from every angle. Can't get to performance if I have to get myself to like the styling. Such a disappointment.
Then why are you here? Gtfo then
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I would agree. The car is selling. I think another brand would be the option if BMW's design direction isn't for you, generally speaking.
Hmm, based on what I see at both dealerships that I visit regularly, they don't sell like "hot cakes". As per sales guys which I know, "the design is the main problem".

I also bought a 2021 M340i Performance Edition instead due to the design. Even this one is not really blowing me away but the headlights are way nicer and more aggressive but elegant and the grills are nicer; at least it has a livable face. I am working to get the simpler Alpina grills so I can get rid of the "diamond" grills.

As an M replacement, after decades, I went with a different brand.
I just can not stand the face and the ultra cheap rear door/wheel arch which screams CHEAP as they were too cheap to make special rear doors that can flow with the hips in the back and make a distinctive look. Obviously they used the same sedan doors and bulked the back an left an area like it was done by me and my buddies in the garage.
The three colour leather interior, the design of the seats with too many parts and sewing, the bulk between the legs and too much protruded non-practical sides is another thing that I can not do. Nice for a day but that's it. I am looking forward to see the wear and tear of those in a mater of a year or two. Forget about more.
Some of us would like a wolf in sheep clothes, with a beautiful simpler design instead of screaming lemon colours on the seats... Even if you don't like it and need to go with a simple black, you are still forced to accept a grey velcro material on the sides....
I get the idea but is not elegant in any way. And if you want simpler seats, you don't get that package. So, BMW can keep it.
I forced myself to like it, yet, I don't take Viagra, so no, is not growing on me.
Forced myself towards the M5 as I love that thing, just to realize that is actually too big for my needs. Long gone are the days of the E46 or a nimble body dimensions. Still do not understand the needs of going bigger and bigger. Keep the niches as they are and people will buy what fits their lifestyle.

So yeah, it is what it is I guess...
I am a hard core BMW fan and I am actually hurt by their direction.

Nice car mechanically, but which I can never look at. I -personally- just can not bring one home. Sorry.
I can't speak for Canada. Here in SoCal, they sell like hot cakes……above sticker allllllll day. Every region/market is different.
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I would agree. The car is selling. I think another brand would be the option if BMW's design direction isn't for you, generally speaking.
Hmm, based on what I see at both dealerships that I visit regularly, they don't sell like "hot cakes". As per sales guys which I know, "the design is the main problem".

I also bought a 2021 M340i Performance Edition instead due to the design. Even this one is not really blowing me away but the headlights are way nicer and more aggressive but elegant and the grills are nicer; at least it has a livable face. I am working to get the simpler Alpina grills so I can get rid of the "diamond" grills.

As an M replacement, after decades, I went with a different brand.
I just can not stand the face and the ultra cheap rear door/wheel arch which screams CHEAP as they were too cheap to make special rear doors that can flow with the hips in the back and make a distinctive look. Obviously they used the same sedan doors and bulked the back an left an area like it was done by me and my buddies in the garage.
The three colour leather interior, the design of the seats with too many parts and sewing, the bulk between the legs and too much protruded non-practical sides is another thing that I can not do. Nice for a day but that's it. I am looking forward to see the wear and tear of those in a mater of a year or two. Forget about more.
Some of us would like a wolf in sheep clothes, with a beautiful simpler design instead of screaming lemon colours on the seats... Even if you don't like it and need to go with a simple black, you are still forced to accept a grey velcro material on the sides....
I get the idea but is not elegant in any way. And if you want simpler seats, you don't get that package. So, BMW can keep it.
I forced myself to like it, yet, I don't take Viagra, so no, is not growing on me.
Forced myself towards the M5 as I love that thing, just to realize that is actually too big for my needs. Long gone are the days of the E46 or a nimble body dimensions. Still do not understand the needs of going bigger and bigger. Keep the niches as they are and people will buy what fits their lifestyle.

So yeah, it is what it is I guess...
I am a hard core BMW fan and I am actually hurt by their direction.

Nice car mechanically, but which I can never look at. I -personally- just can not bring one home. Sorry.
I can't speak for Canada. Here in SoCal, they sell like hot cakes……above sticker allllllll day. Every region/market is different.
They will be hot cakes here in Canada too once the AWD comes. My local dealer (small city) already sold 3 + mine. Inventory is getting lower everyday now that people are test driving them.
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