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      09-24-2021, 10:05 PM   #1
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"Winter" tires for the PNW coast

Suggestions for the best tires to use on very wet roads, cold but not freezing? I doubt I'll be driving it much in freezing snow/ice conditions. But will be driving it plenty in Seattle, Portland, etc over the winter.

Many of the suggestions on the winter tire thread seem much more geared to snow. What about all seasons for winter?
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      09-25-2021, 08:21 AM   #2
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All seasons are okay at everything and the best at nothing. Dedicated winters and summers are the way to go. I look for top rated tires on tire rack and revalidate that against professional reviews.

PS4S for summer. This is a little lesss obvious but Blizzaks for winter. M4 is not here yet so I will revisit then for the winter selection. The blizzaks cut through standing rain water like a hot knife through butter though. I usually briefly aquaplane on memorable problem spots of standing water with other tires.
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      09-25-2021, 11:42 AM   #3
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Suggestions for the best tires to use on very wet roads, cold but not freezing? I doubt I'll be driving it much in freezing snow/ice conditions. But will be driving it plenty in Seattle, Portland, etc over the winter.

Many of the suggestions on the winter tire thread seem much more geared to snow. What about all seasons for winter?
I haven't ever run these, but Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 seem to have a following for folks on here that switch to all seasons in the winter.
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      09-25-2021, 11:45 AM   #4
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I haven't ever run these, but Continental Extreme Contact DWS 06 seem to have a following for folks on here that switch to all seasons in the winter.
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All seasons are okay at everything and the best at nothing. Dedicated winters and summers are the way to go. I look for top rated tires on tire rack and revalidate that against professional reviews.

PS4S for summer. This is a little lesss obvious but Blizzaks for winter. M4 is not here yet so I will revisit then for the winter selection. The blizzaks cut through standing rain water like a hot knife through butter though. I usually briefly aquaplane on memorable problem spots of standing water with other tires.
Super helpful thanks guys. I'm also considering the PA5*. The tread looks like it would do well in standing water and slick roads.
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Super helpful thanks guys. I'm also considering the PA5*. The tread looks like it would do well in standing water and slick roads.
I ran the PA4's on my M2C for two seasons, but not on the coast (in the PDX Metro). They were stellar in cold rain, and flat out weird when the temps inevitably rose for a day or two. I ran the DWS06's last "winter"...not that it was much of a "winter" and they were very good for our weird weather. I would consider them again on my M3 if I can come up with what the heck to do wheel-wise.
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If you do go full winter tire, make sure you get a "performance winter" tire. Michelin PA5, Pirelli Sottozero 3, etc. Winter tires geared towards snow are sloppy and squishy and handle poorly in typical driving.
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Suggestions for the best tires to use on very wet roads, cold but not freezing? I doubt I'll be driving it much in freezing snow/ice conditions. But will be driving it plenty in Seattle, Portland, etc over the winter.

Many of the suggestions on the winter tire thread seem much more geared to snow. What about all seasons for winter?
I live in Seattle and I'm going to try the Pilot Sport All Season 4 on my G80. It is my daily but I have a G05 (that will have winters) to drive when the roads get icy or the one week a year we get snow in the city. I just need a tire that works in cold/wet and cold/dry conditions. This video may be helpful.

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There are multiple threads on this topic.
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There are multiple threads on this topic.
Ok, but in support of the OP, a lot of those threads involve folk who think the weather in their area is the weather in our area. It's entirely reasonable to have a PNW-centric version of this thread as our weather is somewhat unique compared to the rest of the country.
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I have a dedicated set of Blizzaks for my wife's GTI. They are an awesome winter tire. However, just like with everything in life, there's drawbacks.
The Good: Amazing in snow/slush. Adding Blizzaks even on a FWD car totally transforms it in the winter. I dare say it, it feels like my Grand Cherokee did in the snow. I didn't test it up giant unplowed now banks like I did my Jeep, so there's that caveat. And it is a relatively inexpensive tire.
The Bad: I don't know if the sidewall is too stiff or too soft but it does (obviously) change the characteristics of the car. The car wont handle as well, will lean into corners more, and will have heavier steering.
It also is louder. When switching over back to her regular wheels and tires, the car becomes alive again.
The Ugly: I don't really see much of a drawback on winter tires or Blizzaks in general. I would keep a dedicated set of wheels and not swap out tires constantly.
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G80: Just ordered some sottozero3 which are supposed to perform better in wet compared to blizzaks. Would rather have something that performs well in winter instead of just ok which is why I went winter instead of all season.
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