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      12-10-2021, 11:32 PM   #89
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JDM style wheels on Euro cars look so cheap & nasty.
Oh & I prefer the oem grill or even better still the csl style.
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      12-11-2021, 12:28 AM   #90
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Looks worse. Like a giant bandaid across the front. If you have to do this to a car of this cost just to make it palatable then don't buy it. Send BMW the message that if they want to pander to the Chinese market so badly then the rest of us are out. But of course that's asking to much. Guys are buying it and offering up every justification in the book from "it's not bad in person" to "it's growing on me".
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      12-11-2021, 12:31 AM   #91
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Nasty. The grille works as it came from factory. This grille bashing has gotten stale and old.
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      12-11-2021, 12:56 AM   #92
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It's strange to me people get so bent out of shape at the thought of changing the bumper. No one seems to be bothered at all by a 6-8k exhaust to change the sound. You can dump 10% of the cars value there, but a visual change is a waste of money?
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      12-11-2021, 01:42 AM   #93
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It's strange to me people get so bent out of shape at the thought of changing the bumper. No one seems to be bothered at all by a 6-8k exhaust to change the sound. You can dump 10% of the cars value there, but a visual change is a waste of money?
FWIW, I think those 6-8k exhausts are a waste of money too.
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      12-11-2021, 02:07 AM   #94
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Well now that we've all seen the XM kidneys, those G8X ones look like a walk in the park...
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      12-11-2021, 02:31 AM   #95
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Good lord no! It exaggerates it if anything.
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      12-11-2021, 03:25 AM   #96
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This is such a shame bmw missed the mark so far and it shows. Everything about the G80 is cool in sedan form, essentially the grille runs the presentation of the car as its a big step in the wrong direction. I don't think any grill would fix it but the work that has to go into it to find something tasteful speaks volumes...
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      12-11-2021, 05:08 AM   #97
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Horrible..., I bet the owner is MB fan and received this ///M as a gift, so he dropped this car at a local garage and Dmitry fixed the front.
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      12-11-2021, 06:21 AM   #98
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I prefer the original grill. If potential customers don't like them they should buy an another car I think.
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      12-11-2021, 06:35 AM   #99
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Still ugly!

You cannot fix that grille. CSL version is no better IMO.
Lets change the head of design at BMW. It is the only way forward...
I’m thinking you should apply. I think you could write them a nice letter detailing how stupid they are and that you would do a much better job designing vehicles for them. You would also need to notate that current sales mean nothing because the cars are still ugly whether or not people are buying them in record. They could then fire the current design team and hire you. Your new job would be quite easy because you would just employ the exact same freaking grille they’ve been using for the last 30 years and you could probably just play golf every day. Then sales would increase even more than now because obviously every single person hates this new design since you do and you’re only buying the cars in record numbers today out of desperation. I think all of us can agree this would be a great move by you. Let us know if you need help with the letter.


OP this this concept grille is hideous. I don’t know why any company would think this would appease the small percentage of leftover haters. It won’t. The only thing that will satisfy them is to slap the M5 or M3’s front end on it. These heaters want the exact same grille they’ve had since the mid-90s. Anything short of that is designed by a group of morons and our friend jpdChicago will take care of that in the future.
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      12-11-2021, 06:47 AM   #100
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Nah.. I love the grill on g80.
IMO, g80 grill is modern design and aggressive!!
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      12-11-2021, 07:00 AM   #101
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Not a fan. Why fix if it ain't broke.
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      12-11-2021, 07:01 AM   #102
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It is not salvageable without getting rid of 1) hood dimple 2) narrowing the grilles or installing a frame on them that softens them. I think it is very hard to do with current car and it is a write off. THey will have a facelift in few years, I think they will correct it somewhat. Then current owners will buy THAT as an upgrade.

These tuning companies failed miserably with the upgrades to the front, probably because they dont know how it can be done.
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It is not salvageable without getting rid of 1) hood dimple 2) narrowing the grilles or installing a frame on them that softens them. I think it is very hard to do with current car and it is a write off. THey will have a facelift in few years, I think they will correct it somewhat. Then current owners will buy THAT as an upgrade.

These tuning companies failed miserably with the upgrades to the front, probably because they dont know how it can be done.
I’m beginning to think that some BMW purists would tell Bill Belichick all the things he did wrong with the patriots over the last 20 years.
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      12-11-2021, 07:16 AM   #104
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I like one piece or needs a new bumper all together.
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      12-11-2021, 07:23 AM   #105
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I’m beginning to think that some BMW purists would tell Bill Belichick all the things he did wrong with the patriots over the last 20 years.
You would think that, you have the new car and you like it and you dont like hearing it sucks design wise by random people on the internet. I get that. Lets see see how you feel about LCI cars.

Im not BMW design purist, dont know who is Belichick.

Keep in mind, it may be also the problem of the way this website boosts discussion. You always have the grille stuff on front page, always. So you do get lot of bypassing crowd stopping by opining on this chopped nose car, without the consideration for feelings of M3-M4 forum members who must be so bloody tired. trust me, it's not like everyone seeks out m3 forum to shit on your ride, its just the front page brings everyone in. No hard feeling!

BMW just made this super polarising design, I think it works better on the GT3 race car. See for comparison. And it also photographs worse than it looks in real life where you look down on the car and you dont see this lower part much.
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      12-11-2021, 07:39 AM   #106
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You would think that, you have the new car and you like it and you dont like hearing it sucks design wise by random people on the internet. I get that. Lets see see how you feel about LCI cars.

Im not BMW design purist, dont know who is Belichick.

Keep in mind, it may be also the problem of the way this website boosts discussion. You always have the grille stuff on front page, always. So you do get lot of bypassing crowd stopping by opining on this chopped nose car, without the consideration for feelings of M3-M4 forum members who must be so bloody tired. trust me, it's not like everyone seeks out m3 forum to shit on your ride, its just the front page brings everyone in. No hard feeling!

BMW just made this super polarising design, I think it works better on the GT3 race car. See for comparison. And it also photographs worse than it looks in real life where you look down on the car and you dont see this lower part much.
Oh I don’t mind people saying they don’t like it brother. Not at all. I personally can’t stand the way Ford mustangs look or Corvettes. I do kind of like the new Corvette design though but the traditional Corvette design has always been atrocious to me. However I don’t spend my time on Corvette forums telling them all how ugly their cars are and that I could do a much better job designing them. Besides just like the new G80 every single Corvette and Mustang they produce sells so that shows I am in the minority and probably lack design insight or talent and only espouse opinions just like the haters are of this new G80 grille.

Bill Belichick is considered by most football historians to be the greatest coach of NFL football of all time. With second-place to him being quite far behind.
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      12-11-2021, 08:19 AM   #107
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I'm beginning to think that some BMW purists would tell Bill Belichick all the things he did wrong with the patriots over the last 20 years.
BMW just made this super polarising design, I think it works better on the GT3 race car. See for comparison. And it also photographs worse than it looks in real life where you look down on the car and you dont see this lower part much.
The car on the right looks mean and nasty, ready to tear you up. The car on the left, it just looks ... it looks pissed at how good the car on the right looks
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It’s the 4 series grille that’s the problem.
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Nope. The only way it would ever work is if it's a new bumper design.

https://machineswithsouls.com/2020/0...he-bmw-g80-m3/

And this is just a simple mock-up.
yah this is better and takes cues from the hommage.
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      12-11-2021, 10:46 AM   #110
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I've grown to love the OEM front bumper, it's a no for me.
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