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View Poll Results: If BMW were to offer all variants of G8x in the US, which model would you go with?
G80 M3 Sedan 192 16.81%
G81 M3 Touring 844 73.91%
G82 M4 Coupe 80 7.01%
G83 M4 Convertible 26 2.28%
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      09-02-2020, 10:42 AM   #67
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Signed. I NEED an M3 wagon in my life. Ever since BMW teased the E46 M3 Wagon I have felt like the world has had a void. Bring that power wagon to the US!!!!
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      09-02-2020, 10:43 AM   #68
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I see several ask for RWD. Personally, I'd need this to be AWD to have chance to replace our Audi Q7. Too much winter driving though snow packed mountains in the winter for me even bother with RWD only.
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Wow I can't believe you guys made a petition. OK those who voted to have the wagon come state, you guys ready to buy it? Cause if you voted for it you should be ready to buy this car, no ifs ands or buts. I didn't think so.

Everyone in the US just wants to stir the pot. Put your money where your mouth is.
How do you put your money where your mouth is when there is currently nothing to buy? Got to create the opportunity to put your money where your mouth is first!
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      09-02-2020, 10:48 AM   #70
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Sedan or Wagon for me!
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      09-02-2020, 10:52 AM   #71
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Thanks for doing this Can

Would love to be able to have a wagon Manual M3 in the US in the future
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      09-02-2020, 10:55 AM   #72
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Sorry not with that face - and this is coming from a BMW wagon and F80M3 owner who would've killed to combine those two worlds.
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      09-02-2020, 10:56 AM   #73
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M3 Touring with 6MT would convince me to finally stop daily driving my E39 M5.

100% down for M3 Touring, but only if its available with 6MT. I don't care AWD or RWD as long as a manual is an option.

Please fix the disgusting grill though. the front end is awful. Just make it look the same as the G20 and everyone will be much happier
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      09-02-2020, 10:57 AM   #74
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It's unfortunate that people calling for wagons "in general" (yes, some of you are exceptions) aren't willing to put their money where their mouth is because the wagon isn't the "absolutely perfect build."

If you look at the F31 the excuses were, "only 4 cyl," "not RWD," "no manual," "$3000 more (+$1500 xdrive, +$1500 wagon) than RWD," "I'm too cheap and only want to buy after depreciated (which takes a lot longer than with the other body styles)," ect.

I have no interest in an F80/82/83 or the upcoming G80/82/83, but I would be willing to buy another NEW wagon from BMW if they brought the G81 (and I don't care if it's only 8AT or xDrive). Until then, I'll keep planning for a Panamera Sport Turismo...
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      09-02-2020, 11:04 AM   #76
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I was hoping to order an M4 Individual this year as my first factory ordered and custom spec'd car. But their grilles are so gross I couldn't bring myself to do it.

I would 100% order an M3 Touring instead. That's the only car they currently make that I'd still order.
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I don't think G81 will sell more than the G80/G82 but I definitely don't see it doing much worse than G83
If this poll is an accurate picture of the market they will sell 1 vert for every 23 wagons

Which I personally wouldn't mind, the 4 series vert looks quite horrendous in pictures. Really awkward rear proportions.
Yeah it does

And BMW has killed the 2er convertible

So the only car company I'd buy a vert from now is Porsche
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I've had 7 BMWs, 2 of them M3s so far. With a newborn child and a second one planned, the M3 I would most like to buy next would be a G81 wagon if I had the option here in the US.
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I see several ask for RWD. Personally, I'd need this to be AWD to have chance to replace our Audi Q7. Too much winter driving though snow packed mountains in the winter for me even bother with RWD only.
I would love an AWD/6MT, but BMW for some reason is against AWD/6MT. At this point any wagon RWD or AWD with a manual would be a great option. I am still not sure why BMW would not make the G80 Xdrive with a 6MT option?

An insider said it does not drive as well, but who cares, I had an Audi S4 back when they offered 6MT. It was not the best drive during the Summer, but during the winter it was so much fun.

I am convinced the market research for some of these companies is not connecting with their customer base. When Porsche says they had no idea the GT4 would be popular it is a head-scratcher, the same thing with an AWD/6MT truly *motorsport* wagon. It is so obvious to me, that it would be a huge success in sales, marketing, enthusiasm, and momentum for a brand, but nobody will make it.
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Manual AWD would be great!!
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A change.org petition will go further. I created one here:

http://chng.it/7Z7sRrfZdK
Signed.

This would be so epic. BMWNA has gotten BMW Germany to provide special things for this market in the past so this may yet become a reality!
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      09-02-2020, 11:17 AM   #82
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I've had 7 BMWs, 2 of them M3s so far. With a newborn child and a second one planned, the M3 I would most like to buy next would be a G81 wagon if I had the option here in the US.
Much easier to get a kid in and out of a X3 or X5

I am just sayin

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I will absolutely buy one BMW! I've owned every generation of M3's except e9x and I currently own an M2, an e30 M3, and a BMW r100 motorcycle. If the wagon comes to the US for under 100k, manual and 6-speed, you can take my money. If not then I'm just keeping my m2 and probably switching to Porsche for new cars. Do you hear me BMW??
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I don't understand all the negativity in this thread. Yes, everybody knows the chances are pretty slim that it's happening despite this or any petition but why should we not try? Why should we not show the potential interest in this car? I also hear what you are saying and you guys have a point. When it comes to signing the papers, most of these interested buyers might look elsewhere but again I still do believe it would do better than you guys are expecting. BMW offered 5 series GT and 6 series GT in the US market and I don't remember them being top sellers at all. This car has so much more potential IMO. Also, before I forget, in terms of putting my money where my mouth is, if BMW were to confirm it will be offered for sale in the US market, I'm ready to put a non-refundable deposit to get in line today.
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As a wagon guy, I'd love a G81 M3. Problem starts with the fact their SUV/SAV sell like hot cakes here in the states. If they do bring one here they should be sure to make it an easier process than those trying to get the RS6 avant, what a nightmare. For some reason, people scream for wagons and then don't buy them. What's the price point projected to be? Seeing some of the high optioned F80s, you wouldn't catch me buying any BMW for that. However, a solid lightly used one is something to consider.
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Signed and my CA already has my deposit on their first 2 alocations if this ever happens.

My family has owned 3x e46, 2x e9x, and 2x f31 wagons. We also have owned 7 M cars. I would love to bring those 2 together. I'll take one in daytona violet and one whatever color my wife wants.
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Signed.

I serve on BMW NA's professional council. I will bring up the petition and this poll so let's get some more signatures and polls. Next meeting is Thursday the 10th at 4pm. Not sure if they'll entertain it but it doesn't hurt trying
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