[Multani]

I have mine for June allocation with July Delivery - is it worth it to wait another month to get AWD or just get the RWD.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Multani

I have mine for June allocation with July Delivery - is it worth it to wait another month to get AWD or just get the RWD.

Only you can answer that question for yourself.

Keep in mind that it won't be as simple as waiting another month. You'd have to first get an AWD allocation and then depending upon what that build date is. You are likely looking at a Sept/October delivery of an AWD model if you got in an order in the first set of allocations. If not, you could be waiting upwards of 6 months as the lists at dealerships for AWD allocations look to be pretty long already.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Only you can answer that question for yourself.

Keep in mind that it won't be as simple as waiting another month. You'd have to first get an AWD allocation and then depending upon what that build date is. You are likely looking at a Sept/October delivery of an AWD model if you got in an order in the first set of allocations. If not, you could be waiting upwards of 6 months as the lists at dealerships for AWD allocations look to be pretty long already.

What's your data point to back up a 6 month wait? No possible way that every BMW Center in the US has a 6 month wait. Demand will be G80 > G82 > G83. Too many variables, as high volume M dealerships will have plenty of allocation. End of the day, this is a mass produced car— not limited like the former M4 gts or current M2 cs.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

What's your data point to back up a 6 month wait? No possible way that every BMW Center in the US has a 6 month wait. Demand will be G80 > G82 > G83. Too many variables, as high volume M dealerships will have plenty of allocation. End of the day, this is a mass produced car— not limited like the former M4 gts or current M2 cs.

No data point in the least bit other than going off of what we've been seeing on the forums in general. So far we've seen people that have been waiting several months to get allocations just for the current models offered. Just giving a heads up that it may be tough to get an allocation and then waiting for the build and delivery to occur that it could be a while before they get an AWD model sitting in their garage.

If the poster above is willing to go with any dealership across the country then sure, they could likely get one much sooner. Not everyone has the appetite or desire to open their search to every single dealership in the US. ����

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

What's your data point to back up a 6 month wait? No possible way that every BMW Center in the US has a 6 month wait. Demand will be G80 > G82 > G83. Too many variables, as high volume M dealerships will have plenty of allocation. End of the day, this is a mass produced car— not limited like the former M4 gts or current M2 cs.

I mean, the data point is literally what is happening right now. There are numerous people who placed orders in March and still have no allocation, brokers have stopped taking new clients because of the lack of allocations, and there are countless stories on this forum of people calling all the dealers in their area only to find they will be languishing near the bottom of an already pretty long list for AWD orders you can't even place yet.

Factory capacity is finite, and the current lack of allocations is with that capacity split between two variants (base & comp). When AWD is released factory capacity isn't increasing, but that capacity will now be split between 3 variants. Literally by definition the capacity for base and comp must go down, and x-drive will be hamstrung by being 1 of 3. Add to that - not only is capacity finite, but in practical terms it is actually decreasing now due to shortages. Give it a year I'm sure everything will be smooth, but 6 months to get an AWD, unless you go to SoCal and pay $20k over, is not unrealistic.

[jailonacs99]

I have my deposit down but it's not a question of no allocations. The ordering for AWDs hasn't opened yet. Latest estimate is mid-May, with production starting in June/July for those Sept/Oct deliveries.

My high volume dealer told me they'll get as many allocations as they need, so it's more a matter of where you get in line and what week that results in when production starts.

The biggest issue seems to be the chip shortages are starting to affect availability of options, including the laser lights in M4s. So OP, if wait there's a chance you may face production item limitations or restrictions. I'm willing to take that gamble for the AWD.

[///AVM]

Take this into consideration . . .

The Porsche lots have been empty of new 718/911 models for months, and the wait for customer chassis builds is backed up months.

Sooner or later, it was bound to happen to BMW . . . and it appears it is starting to happen now.

General Manager of dealership where I purchased my G80 told me two days ago he has two customer chassis builds that were queued-up for build last week. Notified that both are on indefinite hold due to parts shortage.

This problem is only going to get worse . . . a lot worse. So, no matter the choice, rest assured there will be a wait.

///AVM

[xmanpro]

Put my order in for a m3c 3/11, scheduled delivery 6/23.

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by jailonacs99

I have my deposit down but it's not a question of no allocations. The ordering for AWDs hasn't opened yet. Latest estimate is mid-May, with production starting in June/July for those Sept/Oct deliveries.

My high volume dealer told me they'll get as many allocations as they need, so it's more a matter of where you get in line and what week that results in when production starts.

The biggest issue seems to be the chip shortages are starting to affect availability of options, including the laser lights in M4s. So OP, if wait there's a chance you may face production item limitations or restrictions. I'm willing to take that gamble for the AWD.

LMFAO, "they'll get as many allocations as they need". Yes, but did you ask him over what time period? Ask them how many unspoken for 6MT allocations they currently have. I would guess the answer is somewhere between 0 and 0.

[jailonacs99]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

LMFAO, "they'll get as many allocations as they need". Yes, but did you ask him over what time period? Ask them how many unspoken for 6MT allocations they currently have. I would guess the answer is somewhere between 0 and 0.

Doesn't matter to me, I'm near the top of the list because I jumped in over a month ago. It's everybody down the line that needs to worry about that.

[PVC]

My lease is up in February, so I'm hoping the demand has dropped and the chip shortage is a thing of the past by then. I am not sure how much of that is wishful thinking.

Ideally, I'd love to get my hands on an AWD, but I'd probably wait till the last minute and end up with whatever I can get my hands on. Maybe a Corolla?

[Transfer]

I've got an M340i lease through August 2022. Once the 2022 xDrive order guide is out I will reach out to dealers to assess wait times and get on list if needed as I'm going to shoot for April 2022 delivery. If it goes into the LCI so be it I guess.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by Transfer

I've got an M340i lease through August 2022. Once the 2022 xDrive order guide is out I will reach out to dealers to assess wait times and get on list if needed as I'm going to shoot for April 2022 delivery. If it goes into the LCI so be it I guess.

you could've ordered one a while ago, options should basically be the same as a 2021 knowing BMW. Not to mentioned your build isn't locked in if you put a deposit down 2 months ago like I did. I have the first allocation at the store I chose for AWD with an August delivery date expected.

[Bch53211]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

you could've ordered one a while ago, options should basically be the same as a 2021 knowing BMW. Not to mentioned your build isn't locked in if you put a deposit down 2 months ago like I did. I have the first allocation at the store I chose for AWD with an August delivery date expected.

I am first on the list at my dealer for an awd m4 they told me two weeks ago they are expecting an august delivery but I’m starting to wonder..

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by Bch53211

I am first on the list at my dealer for an awd m4 they told me two weeks ago they are expecting an august delivery but I’m starting to wonder..

I haven't been told anything to the contrary yet either so I'm inclined to believe what he CA said. He's extremely nice and forthcoming, I think he would tell me pretty fast if it changed.

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

I haven't been told anything to the contrary yet either so I'm inclined to believe what he CA said. He's extremely nice and forthcoming, I think he would tell me pretty fast if it changed.

It seems to be more that they haven't been told. It seems nuts that ordering will be theoretically open in a week or so and none of the dealers have been told anything. I wonder if BMW is nervous about shortages and so are trying to rejig production before releasing allocations/timing.

[Bch53211]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

It seems to be more that they haven't been told. It seems nuts that ordering will be theoretically open in a week or so and none of the dealers have been told anything. I wonder if BMW is nervous about shortages and so are trying to rejig production before releasing allocations/timing.

Or is it possible that bmw knows what they are doing, have faced shortages in the past and the forum doom and gloom society is wrong? I’m not saying delays aren’t possible but until I hear otherwise I’m going to hope for the best.

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by Bch53211

Or is it possible that bmw knows what they are doing, have faced shortages in the past and the forum doom and gloom society is wrong? I’m not saying delays aren’t possible but until I hear otherwise I’m going to hope for the best.

I don't really think it's a case of delays or not delays, it's more that they have been remarkably quiet about timing. All they have done is throw out very generic dates, which are now basically upon us and they are still being very generic.

There are a lot of people here who have been waiting for allocations for a couple of months now, so that is a real experience, not doom and gloom. It's not as bad as the debacle that is the 911 market, but it also isn't normal business

[Sbm007]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

It seems to be more that they haven't been told. It seems nuts that ordering will be theoretically open in a week or so and none of the dealers have been told anything. I wonder if BMW is nervous about shortages and so are trying to rejig production before releasing allocations/timing.

I was at the dealers today, AWD is now officially available on the BMW SA3 ordering system here in the UK, as of yesterday morning.

The online configurators have not been updated yet though, apparently that will happen next week.

[Bch53211]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

I don't really think it's a case of delays or not delays, it's more that they have been remarkably quiet about timing. All they have done is throw out very generic dates, which are now basically upon us and they are still being very generic.

There are a lot of people here who have been waiting for allocations for a couple of months now, so that is a real experience, not doom and gloom. It's not as bad as the debacle that is the 911 market, but it also isn't normal business

I get it I don’t mean to trivialize your wait. I do remember 2-3 years ago people saying on here how tough allocations can be and that I should be more skeptical of my dealer getting what they had promised me. The dealer came through within the time frame they said so past experience has made me optimistic. I do realize these are different times now and that this is a new model. I think I am lucky to be in an area where the dealership is big enough to get their fair share of allocations but the customer base for m models is relatively small . Hoping we all get what we want eventually.

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by Sbm007

I was at the dealers today, AWD is now officially available on the BMW SA3 ordering system here in the UK, as of yesterday morning.

The online configurators have not been updated yet though, apparently that will happen next week.

Oh sweet, that's awesome! Same configurations as for regular comp? Notice any differences?

[Sbm007]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

Oh sweet, that's awesome! Same configurations as for regular comp? Notice any differences?

I haven't actually seen the available options/configurations myself. The person I spoke to at the dealership initially said M3/M4 AWD is not available and he had checked the day before, I asked him if he could check again, and he then went away and came back stating it's now on the system (he was also surprised).

He mentioned there is no pricing info available on the system, so I am guessing full details are being gradually rolled out. He also mentioned most likely if I ordered now, I would "definitely have the car" by March 2022 But I think he was just trying to under-promise.

I'm sure the ordering/pricing guide will be out very soon