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I work in purchasing for Toyota so I have the joy of dealing directly with these chipmakers.
To put it shortly, they have everyone by the balls. Even China doesn't have the tech to make their own…making a semiconductor plant is highly difficult. Making a nuclear bomb is probably easier. When Ford has to cut back on its core f-150 trucks, that basically means every and all options have been exhausted. The war room when that decision was made would have been a sight to see. Also, switching to a substitute "chip" will require years of testing as well…these chips are such an integral part of how your car runs. Car industry is notorious for speed of adopting changes that adds risk. 2023/2024 is when we should see things level off.
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And its only going to get worse. Cars are only getting more advnaced, requiring more and more chips, and computers. Back in the day when cars only had an ECU. Now they have ECUs, BCMs, TCMs, and more.
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Interesting story about chip shortage. (Not BMW-specific but about automotive industry)
https://fortune.com/2021/09/17/chip-...tor-stone-age/ |
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try calling them, once you go there they are either sold or will have a 10-20K markup. 9 out of 10 the car is not even there, sold and gone and just a stock photo is shown....if the car is there it will have a markup (they don't put the markup on the internet prices). If I didn't have my car I'd probably pay 10K markup for it if I had to.
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This means M3/M4 is back to full specification (...in the UK atleast)
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I went for Full Merino Black. Was very close to choosing Full Fiona Red. Previously had Sakhir Orange interior in my M4 and that was more red than orange so felt like a change
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Just curious if this does drag out until 2023/24 as some have predicted...do you think BMW will extend the production run of the G8X to allow customers a chance to actually get one???
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Now this morning there are reports of chip factories shutting down for days at a time to comply with electricity issues. The issues are piling up.
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Can you refer me to them? I’m having such a hard time finding a dealership who isn’t marking up. My current order has a marked up MF.
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