[Mike00]

Originally Posted by jmg

It explains a lot and that's an awful situation. Like I said, there are way more idiots than not. They far outnumber us. Mostly I feel like the younger generation are to entitled and self centered to even consider other people's perspectives. Ironically they take up the banner of some social justice movement, right or wrong. It becomes more like a trend to follow than actually caring about the well being of others. Your daughter wasn't a "cause" they could get social points on, so they didn't burn too many calories for her well being. I totally get it. While I can't blame one group over another, simply because it's not productive, I can understand how frustrating it is for people to pretend to care about a hashtag rather than the people right in front of them. Whether it's #blm, #maga, #metoo etc, people pretend to care of fool themselves into thinking they are righteous while simultaneously being shitty to people in real life.

Anyway, that was a big tangent.

The other thing on the whole social movenents is it’s not new. Look at Vietnam, look at women in the work place etc…. Cultures evolve and usually the younger generation disagrees with the older generation (look at the 20’s as an even older example).

I’m more like you in not caring for either party and seeing the world as grey not black/white. Usually those movements start with the kernel of truth or a decent reason. Unfortunately as with everything in life pendulum swings very hard.

Life has a way of getting back to balance over the long haul though.

Meanwhile I second your opinion of not carying about politics - not worth it and no benefit to me.

[DO444]

Originally Posted by GixY2K

Same page here.

Hate flying, traveling, hotels, airports, and most of all, coordinating it all.

+20yrs. of military travel in, out and around the AOR, pretty much destroyed my nerve to fly/travel. But thanks to this and other issues, I can afford my toys (retired military w/ a VA rating know what I'm talking about)

However, when it comes to travel history in the military, my best one-year paid vacation was my short-tour to Diego Garcia, while being in-charge of a good chunk of the island; it was like having my own private island w/ a crystal clear lagoon, and stories that will be taken to my grave.

But to echo what's already been said, to each their own.

I get it, my uncle was the same way.
Air Force vet and the day he got out he swore he’d never fly again. His theory was, there’s only so much flying you can do before it gets you (as in, one day you’re number is gonna get punched and that plane is going down.)

He had a perfect record and wanted to keep it that way lol.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by ShiftingG82

Good Morning from NY. I've been thinking about this since I saw the G82 in person.

I would like to know how many others who are pulling the trigger on a G8x M3/M4 are still renting an apartment. I really want a G82 but I'm tired of renting and want a home for myself where I could park my cars inside my own garage. If I pull the trigger on the G82 I won't be able to buy a house for another five years which doesn't really bother me that much, but it will be on the back of my mind especially since I don't have a garage near my current location so I'll end up parking the car on the street.

I know the car is going to lose value everyday I drive it, while a house might stay the same or go up in value in most cases. But, I'm a car guy, I love cars, I do most of my mechanic work myself, and LOVE high speed, shifting my own gears, and car technology. I've had numerous days where work was horrible, but the minute I turn on my car I forget about everything and just pay attention to the operating temperature of the car before I hammer it! Sadly, when I come home from a horrible day at work I don't admire my apartment. I just want my bed and start a new day the next day.

I just want to know how irrational or rational my thoughts are and whether I'm the only one that's going through this. If you were in a similar boat in the past can you tell me what you ended up going with and how things are now?

Buy the house first, otherwise you'll regret it one day.

First take care of the your family and health, followed by buying a house and then everything else.

[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by DO444

Absolutely, everyone has their own ways of spending money and values different things.

You could easily say vacations are a waste of money and just have your kids read a book or watch a video on the pyramids, just like you could drive a Toyota Corolla. I imagine many of you would not agree with that, but if a car is just a way to get from point A to point B, then a vacation is just a way to acquire memories.

Personally, I hate vacations. They do nothing for me. I truly hate when my wife tells me it's time for a vacation. Yuck. I hate hotels. I hate airplanes. I hate everything to do with travel, it's all bad for me. I try to keep it to myself, smile, laugh, and have fun… but inside I know I'd much rather be home. My home is my favorite place on Earth. I've traveled quite a bit and while I enjoyed the places I was at the time, for example I enjoyed living in the Caribbean for a few years… I never think of it. The memory doesn't bring me joy. I'm always where I am. What happened yesterday does nothing for me, never think about it. The beeches, the water, it might as well have never happened.

but of course there are so many who love travel, and there's nothing wrong with any of that. I like living in different places but I despise vacations.

On the flip side, I love cars. Love looking at them, touching them, riding in them, hearing them (not smelling them so much lol, don't like "new car smell" - do you know they bottle that smell and spray it at lesser dealerships? The bottle literally says "new car smell. Grossss.)

Just trying to say that everything is a waste of money to someone, and not to others.

I don't like vacations too, but like traveling to specific countries because of various reasons.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Buy the house first, otherwise you'll regret it one day.

First take care of the your family and health, followed by buying a house and then everything else.

Start with a duplex. Live on one side and rent the other. Normally your just partying and having fun in the first house anyway . Then after a few years, buy a home and start renting the other side. Easy way to get started. I’m going to sell my nephew 1 of my duplexes when he is ready. Hopefully if he wants to put in the work, he can do the rental property thing if he wants. It’s a great side hustle for anyone You don’t need college to do this type of thing. It can be very good money if you stick with it. Just my opinion.

[skyline408]

For those that say buying a house is the only way - I don't believe it. Everyone is different and everyone enjoys different things and has different priorities.

I had one of those cookie cutter luxury apartments in my 20s and a lot of disposable income for toys. I was pretty happy.

I have a house now, but even if I paid off the mortgage today, I still owe the government $1500 bucks a month for property tax...

[Myangdue]

Own two investment homes but currently renting the home im living in.. dont want to pay for a 10k+ mortgage when I can pay about $5k rent for a similar sized home

[Gladius Nova]

I/We have owned our last 3 homes. When I do go to an apartment complex for whatever reason and see $70-$100k vehicles, I can't understand the "priorities" those people have in life. That''s just 1 guys opinion though.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Gladius Nova

I/We have owned our last 3 homes. When I do go to an apartment complex for whatever reason and see $70-$100k vehicles, I can't understand the "priorities" those people have in life. That''s just 1 guys opinion though.

I think there are tons of people who don’t want to own. I think that number is also rising quickly. Which is great for someone who has rentals. Like I posted above. Rentals are going to be popular for a long time. This younger gen doesn’t want to do any work. So they definitely don’t want to take care of the yard, replace water heater/ pretty much anything. Lol. The few times I had people leave, they were filled instantly🤑

[SMGCFP]

I just got divorced. I live alone. I rent. It's just easier. It's a nice place, with a garage for the M. I don't think I'll buy another home unless I meet a woman who wants to. In this environment (higher rates, less inventory) make me less in a hurry.

The perception that renters aren't wealthy or that homeowners are is nonsense.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by skyline408

I have a house now, but even if I paid off the mortgage today, I still owe the government $1500 bucks a month for property tax...

You pay that property tax regardless of if you rent or own. The difference is when you rent it's baked into the monthly rent of the unit - not a separate line item like when you purchase.

[skyline408]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

You pay that property tax regardless of if you rent or own. The difference is when you rent it's baked into the monthly rent of the unit - not a separate line item like when you purchase.

I guess you can look at it that way. When you rent, you have way more maneuverability though.

We just sold our old primary house and bought a new house. It was a major pain because of all the work involved, so i'm a little jaded right now. Sometimes I miss the simplicity of paying rent monthly with the flexibility of leaving when I want, and having all the maintenance taken care of.

I think when I get older, i'd be fine with a little 2-bedroom condo.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by skyline408

I guess you can look at it that way. When you rent, you have way more maneuverability though.

We just sold our old primary house and bought a new house. It was a major pain because of all the work involved, so i'm a little jaded right now. Sometimes I miss the simplicity of paying rent monthly with the flexibility of leaving when I want, and having all the maintenance taken care of.

I think when I get older, i'd be fine with a little 2-bedroom condo.

Can't argue with that. I think we're at a point where, with kids, we're not really looking to move around much. May look at things differently when the kids are out of the house, but we've got a LONG way to go for that.

[skyline408]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Can't argue with that. I think we're at a point where, with kids, we're not really looking to move around much. May look at things differently when the kids are out of the house, but we've got a LONG way to go for that.

I have 2 young kids too, and moved because of them. We wanted to live in the 'safest city' in CA with top notch schools.

[Skyscraper]

Originally Posted by skyline408

I have 2 young kids too, and moved because of them. We wanted to live in the 'safest city' in CA with top notch schools.

So where is the “safest city” with “top notch schools” in CA?

[Niko1Devynios]

Drove an STi in the 2000s and rented, then drove a Q50 and bought a first house. Got married, got a second house, rented the first one and finally got the G82.

I'd side with getting the house first and let the equity build without much in the way of effort.

And, if possible, try to pay cash, live in the paid off house, and have renters pay any mortgages you have.

I only wish sometimes the wife didn't want to live in the most expensive areas of the country lol

[skyline408]

Originally Posted by Skyscraper

So where is the “safest city” with “top notch schools” in CA?

Danville, CA.

[GTS Daddy]

I live in a VAN... down by the RIVER.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Niko1Devynios

Drove an STi in the 2000s and rented, then drove a Q50 and bought a first house. Got married, got a second house, rented the first one and finally got the G82.

I'd side with getting the house first and let the equity build without much in the way of effort.

And, if possible, try to pay cash, live in the paid off house, and have renters pay any mortgages you have.

I only wish sometimes the wife didn't want to live in the most expensive areas of the country lol

Get a new one? 🤷 Lol

[dkm808]

Homeowner here. I was fortunate to buy when the market was garbage back in 2008. Got a 3 bedroom, 1.5 bath condo w/ a Diamond Head view from my lanai. I just ordered a M3 Comp and production will start week 38.

[echtors]

Renting here - Can provide more transparency and numbers to this thread

Toronto downtown - detached houses start at 1.8m, with +5% mortgage rate and 20% down, that's 9k for mortgage alone. Adding property tax, utilities, insurance, maintenance - total cost goes up quite a bit.

(fyi at 1.8M, you don't get a garage, only street parking. For a garage it's +2.3M)

Compared to renting, you're paying much much less.

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by Bmac850

I actually own three houses—two in the USA and the third one in Greece.
The first property was purchased many years ago, while the second one was inherited from my parents.
As for the Greek property, it's a recent investment I made with the goal of obtaining the Greece golden visa, providing me with a straightforward path to permanent residency in Greece.

If anyone is interested in getting an European Visa, let me tell you that getting the Greek one through investments is a great way to do it. Here you can see investment opportunities in Greek real estate, which make you eligible for the visa.

Over the next 2-3 years, my plan is to acquire at least one more property in Europe. I aim to generate passive income through renting out these properties, as Europe remains a highly popular destination for tourists from all around the world.

Not as Europe is literally on a brink of war.
Time to rethink your strategy.