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      01-17-2022, 10:20 AM   #23
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You need to send the Audi to Underground Perf for some Turbo action my friend��. Just saying
Have we not had this convo? LOL

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2nd: Pretty much as expected with impromptu races. The X drive is racing for dummies

Man the S58 is just so incredible. I was driving my V10 R8 around with its sonorous brilliance and then the next day I went back to the G80 and honestly I am damn fucking proud to have this car in my garage (actually had 2 LOL).
Hey I have the g80
I’m curious your opinion on the r8 as I was thinking of trading my car in for it
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Hey I have the g80
I’m curious your opinion on the r8 as I was thinking of trading my car in for it
2 different cars entirely---

The R8 is a V10 600 hp n/a car with no back seat and less than forward tech in the cockpit. It serves what it intends to be, a high rpm, good handling sport car with an amazing exhaust note. It can be daily driven but I would not do so personally. Its a great car on the eyes but not so "look at me" like a Macca or a Lambo would be. Its not entirely pragmatic but I have now had 4 of them they are really great usable daily super cars that are enjoyable to grip and rip.

If all you do is drive in traffic; this is not the car for you. But it sure is a good looking car IMHO. The Haldex AWD setup creates a rear bias like my X drive and the chassis/steering is not prone to that notorious understeer and tq pull that other Quattro cars deliver. The R8 should be a better track car but I dont use it for that and its every bit of an amazing car for the street.

The G80 is as good a car IMHO for what I need and want in a driving experience on the street with better tech and creature comforts. With a proper tune you can beat an R8 on the street but it will never sound or look like one.

If I could only have 1 car, then the G80 X is my car (vs the R8) but if I have more than one car and have a practical driver, the R8 is a great 2nd or 3rd car option.

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I have been driving around in RWD a lot recently in my AWD G8x. I put the M traction control on 4 or 5 and power slide all over the place. I love how easy the back end swings out.
When I want to put the power down I just go into 4WD sport. It is truly the best of both worlds.
Im ordering an xdrive, but i hear the rwd mode isnt a true rwd set up bc the front wheels never really fully disengage
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Another drag race of xDrive vs RWD of the G80 M3. This time by Joe.


that internal piped in sounds is horrible. Interesting car, the shifts are definitely slush box and you can hear it. Seems the edge is gone, the last m3 dead w the F80.
Have you driven it?
People complain about the cabin sound, but it's not that bad in my opinion. I've never driven the F80, so I can't compare DCT to the new ZF in my G80.
After MT, MDCT is the second best transmission on BMW. Its jerky but so fun and fast . ZF is smooth and fast but doesnt have that fun kick back DCT has!
I also like gear ratios of DCT over ZF
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that internal piped in sounds is horrible. Interesting car, the shifts are definitely slush box and you can hear it. Seems the edge is gone, the last m3 dead w the F80.
Im not sure what mode these cars were in, in the video. Unless you have the DriveLogic in 3, it shifts fairly fast, but not amazing. Is it as fast as a DCT, probably not. But the fact that with a tune, downpipes and E40-50 blend, these cars are in the 9.8s @ 140 on the stock turbos, is a testament that the M3 isn't dead with the F80. I was all on board when the F80 came out, but the disappointment was, it was the slowest car in its class. I couldn't wait for AWD and over 500HP. The G8X is a rocket.

And with the release of the new software, I'm under the impression that the internal piped in sound can be turned off in the infotainment settings.
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I have been driving around in RWD a lot recently in my AWD G8x. I put the M traction control on 4 or 5 and power slide all over the place. I love how easy the back end swings out.
When I want to put the power down I just go into 4WD sport. It is truly the best of both worlds.
Im ordering an xdrive, but i hear the rwd mode isnt a true rwd set up bc the front wheels never really fully disengage
You will see when you get the car. When you put it in RWD and no traction control, you have to be careful. This car has a ton of torque and the tires will spin in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. You get zero help from the front wheels when you turn all the driver aids off.

Did you option yours with the 0-10 Stage M traction control?

In 4WD sport in MDM you will get oversteer. M xDrive is a lot different from the xDrive that I had on my M340iX.
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Hey I have the g80
I'm curious your opinion on the r8 as I was thinking of trading my car in for it
2 different cars entirely---

The R8 is a V10 600 hp n/a car with no back seat and less than forward tech in the cockpit. It serves what it intends to be, a high rpm, good handling sport car with an amazing exhaust note. It can be daily driven but I would not do so personally. Its a great car on the eyes but not so "look at me" like a Macca or a Lambo would be. Its not entirely pragmatic but I have now had 4 of them they are really great usable daily super cars that are enjoyable to grip and rip.

If all you do is drive in traffic; this is not the car for you. But it sure is a good looking car IMHO. The Haldex AWD setup creates a rear bias like my X drive and the chassis/steering is not prone to that notorious understeer and tq pull that other Quattro cars deliver. The R8 should be a better track car but I dont use it for that and its every bit of an amazing car for the street.

The G80 is as good a car IMHO for what I need and want in a driving experience on the street with better tech and creature comforts. With a proper tune you can beat an R8 on the street but it will never sound or look like one.

If I could only have 1 car, then the G80 X is my car (vs the R8) but if I have more than one car and have a practical driver, the R8 is a great 2nd or 3rd car option.

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Im ordering an xdrive, but i hear the rwd mode isnt a true rwd set up bc the front wheels never really fully disengage
In RWD mode, i can't say i feel anything from the front ... I Haven't lifted the car and do a test, but i doubt any power goes to the front when RWD mode is engaged. Traction is actually worse than on my former F82 comp, but it had PS4S while i got Pzero on the G80...
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that internal piped in sounds is horrible. Interesting car, the shifts are definitely slush box and you can hear it. Seems the edge is gone, the last m3 dead w the F80.
The F80 had horrible piped in sound as well, it's not unique to the G80. The auto is probably not the same experience as the DCT, but given the G80 performs better in so many ways, I don't see how the M3 is "dead". It's just evolved. Additionally, when I experimented with less aggressive DCT settings on the track and found that level 3 was too aggressive and increased the chances of upsetting the car. I went down to level 2, softer, smoother shifts, and found it to be the perfect compromise between shift speed and smoothness. Hopefully the highest setting on the ZF will be similar to this.

Once we solve that rear brake problem, I'm sure it will be just as fast if not faster than my F80 M3 CS on the track.
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The "M3" is dead is always funny, with every generation. I only really got into BMW's seriously right before the F80 came out (I'd driven plenty of them but hadn't bought one until then) and according everything I read on this board back then, the M3 died with the E90. Yet still there are M3's, and people that love the version they have and dislike the ones they don't.
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The "M3" is dead is always funny, with every generation. I only really got into BMW's seriously right before the F80 came out (I'd driven plenty of them but hadn't bought one until then) and according everything I read on this board back then, the M3 died with the E90. Yet still there are M3's, and people that love the version they have and dislike the ones they don't.
Right?
V8?! BLASPHEMY!
Turbo?! BLASPHEMY!

The M3 is still here. It's the customer base that is moving on. Welcome the new customer base!
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Hey I have the g80
I'm curious your opinion on the r8 as I was thinking of trading my car in for it

2 different cars entirely---

The R8 is a V10 600 hp n/a car with no back seat and less than forward tech in the cockpit. It serves what it intends to be, a high rpm, good handling sport car with an amazing exhaust note. It can be daily driven but I would not do so personally. Its a great car on the eyes but not so "look at me" like a Macca or a Lambo would be. Its not entirely pragmatic but I have now had 4 of them they are really great usable daily super cars that are enjoyable to grip and rip.

If all you do is drive in traffic; this is not the car for you. But it sure is a good looking car IMHO. The Haldex AWD setup creates a rear bias like my X drive and the chassis/steering is not prone to that notorious understeer and tq pull that other Quattro cars deliver. The R8 should be a better track car but I dont use it for that and its every bit of an amazing car for the street.

The G80 is as good a car IMHO for what I need and want in a driving experience on the street with better tech and creature comforts. With a proper tune you can beat an R8 on the street but it will never sound or look like one.

If I could only have 1 car, then the G80 X is my car (vs the R8) but if I have more than one car and have a practical driver, the R8 is a great 2nd or 3rd car option.

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Would you pick the G80 over the plaid?
I would. The RWD 6MT driving experience and the chassis dynamics of my G80 are far more important to me than 0-60 times. Also, I can buy a lot of gas for the $60,990 that my M3 saved me vs. the Plaid.
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Hey I have the g80
I'm curious your opinion on the r8 as I was thinking of trading my car in for it

2 different cars entirely---

The R8 is a V10 600 hp n/a car with no back seat and less than forward tech in the cockpit. It serves what it intends to be, a high rpm, good handling sport car with an amazing exhaust note. It can be daily driven but I would not do so personally. Its a great car on the eyes but not so "look at me" like a Macca or a Lambo would be. Its not entirely pragmatic but I have now had 4 of them they are really great usable daily super cars that are enjoyable to grip and rip.

If all you do is drive in traffic; this is not the car for you. But it sure is a good looking car IMHO. The Haldex AWD setup creates a rear bias like my X drive and the chassis/steering is not prone to that notorious understeer and tq pull that other Quattro cars deliver. The R8 should be a better track car but I dont use it for that and its every bit of an amazing car for the street.

The G80 is as good a car IMHO for what I need and want in a driving experience on the street with better tech and creature comforts. With a proper tune you can beat an R8 on the street but it will never sound or look like one.

If I could only have 1 car, then the G80 X is my car (vs the R8) but if I have more than one car and have a practical driver, the R8 is a great 2nd or 3rd car option.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLV42M2AY9Y58dXuULuEVcm7FC06UKU08il6wthf_i17CGlyR 7YpjVobe0oAxHYPFJfwof-9PDIItnWY-CZpJYQbSXkwVh0NHFtzvAi971QmtCDpAplKc8m0KrhLGB07BAK 5tiNvM9NlAgUnMQS8RQwz=w1791-h1007-no?authuser=0
Would you pick the G80 over the plaid?
I took delivery of the model S LR a few weeks ago , that's not a car you choose over anything.
That's the car you get alongside your G80.
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that internal piped in sounds is horrible. Interesting car, the shifts are definitely slush box and you can hear it. Seems the edge is gone, the last m3 dead w the F80.
The F80 had horrible piped in sound as well, it's not unique to the G80. The auto is probably not the same experience as the DCT, but given the G80 performs better in so many ways, I don't see how the M3 is "dead". It's just evolved. Additionally, when I experimented with less aggressive DCT settings on the track and found that level 3 was too aggressive and increased the chances of upsetting the car. I went down to level 2, softer, smoother shifts, and found it to be the perfect compromise between shift speed and smoothness. Hopefully the highest setting on the ZF will be similar to this.

Once we solve that rear brake problem, I'm sure it will be just as fast if not faster than my F80 M3 CS on the track.
G8x should still be next level on the track than a F8x CS, equal drivers considered.
At least on the Nurburgring, Sport Auto got 7:30 vs 7:42. Not even close!

My G82 is running the same lap times as my highly modded M2C (which would be significantly faster than a stock F8x CS)
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G8x should still be next level on the track than a F8x CS, equal drivers considered.
At least on the Nurburgring, Sport Auto got 7:30 vs 7:42. Not even close!

My G82 is running the same lap times as my highly modded M2C (which would be significantly faster than a stock F8x CS)
Definitely, stock for stock, the G8X is just faster than the F80.

What I meant to say is that I'm wondering if, out of the box, the G8X is faster than my slightly track modded F80 M3 CS.
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xDrive for me all the way.

It already wants to whip that rear so bad during aggressive cornering in freezing weather, I couldn't imagine owning a rwd and dare do the same.

Skills? I don't know if I have them since I've never owned a rwd in my life; mostly fwd and later awd. And don't want to find out that the only skill I have is to end up in YouTube as another "M3 Fail" clip
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The "M3" is dead is always funny, with every generation. I only really got into BMW's seriously right before the F80 came out (I'd driven plenty of them but hadn't bought one until then) and according everything I read on this board back then, the M3 died with the E90. Yet still there are M3's, and people that love the version they have and dislike the ones they don't.
it's like the Star Wars fanboys that have a mild stroke every time a new SW property tries a new spin on things. It's just as tiresome. I'm waiting on my G80 MT right now and it's my 7th BMW in 15 yrs. Still with the brand just like I still love SW, in spite of the smug and annoying fanboys.
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