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I work for GM and can tell you their new vehicles are being rushed through production and having major issues. The 6.2L we’re having engine issues and needed new engine replacements. The transmissions were also having issues. Escalade would completely stop and break down on the road undrivable with less then 5k miles. Not sure how Buick is so high on the list but Cadillac and GMC on the lower end makes total sense based on the factory trying to crank units out in a rush.
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None of the customers surveyed must have had iDrive8.
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02-17-2023, 05:57 AM | #29 |
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All this stuff is irrelevant. I own 2 BMWs I like them. This forum is full of horror stories of brand new cars shutting down and needing massive repairs.
If CR article validates your feelings toward BMW that’s awesome but it makes zero difference when u going to need to repair it. |
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For me the rankings are spot on. BMW is the top car company. After 8 BMWs, Tesla Model 3, I currently own an Audi Q4. The Q4 itself is a fine choice for a BEV SUV in the $63,000 price range. But Audi sucks as a car company. Their car software expertise is incredibly mediocre. BMW treat its customers light years better than Audi.
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I've always felt that Porsche scored well because the primary and secondary owners hardly drove them. SUV's are firmly used as daily drivers so more miles and units offers an opportunity for more problems.
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Still, I’ll bump into people who scream that bmw is unreliable. Anyways, this is awesome for bmw. Also-didn’t expect to see jeep and Land Rover at the bottom but maybe new vehicles will do that to a brand.
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I'd give CR a little more credibility than JD Power. I'm pretty sure companies can just pay their way into JD Power. Not the case with CR.
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Message boards like this aren't random people, they're owners, people who keep their cars past 90 days, and who have to deal with the dealer networks. They are the chosen ones, and I'll take their advice over JD or CR any day of the week. True, it requires joining the board, and some effort to ask questions, but the answers you get are vastly superior to those that are paid for in advance...
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if you read any of their long term tests on something like the Alfa Giulia... they are extremely poor and this echoes everyone's feelings... usually on youtube you won't find these reviews because they don't get the clicks because they aren't for new / just out cars... all u will find are some garbage youtubers "i sold my car after 5 months" blah blah and we find out he modded it in some unreliable way and wrecked 3 times in that time
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This is correct. The article says they base the brand ratings on the road test, reliability, satisfaction and safety.
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While no review site is perfect. CR is by far the most objective. I don’t agree with all their assessments, but I respect their objectivity. Now, it important to bear in mind that CR focuses a lot on safety and reliability. They don’t really factor styling or build quality or luxury.
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