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      03-05-2021, 11:23 AM   #45
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i wonder if there is some hardware difference between the non-comp and comp motor or if they bin the motor somehow or if it's just tuning.
I would bet mostly tuning.
Added cooling on the competition.
Makes more hp and torque and it's heavier.

Will be curious to see/feel driving dynamics awd vs rwd.

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Both reverted one of their models from awd to rwd.
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I see what some of you are saying about the colors and the striping, but Manhart quite deliberately does it to divert attention away from the front grill, select a color that blanks out all the BMW design clutter, and create strong lines to clean things up visually.
This is complete nonsense and shows that you don't know anything about Manhart.
Hey, it's true that I don't know anything about Manhart. So educate me, what's nonsense? I was commenting about things I can see with my own eyes.
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Hey, it's true that I don't know anything about Manhart. So educate me, what's nonsense? I was commenting about things I can see with my own eyes.
Because these are Manhart’s standard colors. They do this styling with other brands as well, not just BMWs. Audi, Porsche, and more...
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      03-05-2021, 06:55 PM   #49
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So far... not the reaction I was expecting. I came for the outrage... there is none, surprising.
Black grill on a black car + the right angle makes even this car to look decent
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      03-05-2021, 07:18 PM   #50
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So far... not the reaction I was expecting. I came for the outrage... there is none, surprising.
Black grill on a black car + the right angle makes even this car to look decent
I numb to the car's schnoz until I see it in person. Its just that Manhart's standard decal/stripes treatment highlight all the wrong things on this car.
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Hey, it's true that I don't know anything about Manhart. So educate me, what's nonsense? I was commenting about things I can see with my own eyes.
Because these are Manhart’s standard colors. They do this styling with other brands as well, not just BMWs. Audi, Porsche, and more...
Ah, i gotcha. So the part of my post that you so kindly and tactfully called "complete nonsense" is my assumption that this is a unique livery. Fair enough and I stand corrected on that part.

I still think that the lines on the livery camouflage and help minimize the questionable OEM styling. Lipstick on a pig, as some have already said, but well done to Manhart nonetheless
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Not sure if this chassis can handle 24% more power on a good shape. That power is under the hood of M8 with 400 lb more mass, about 1" wider track and 1" lower center of gravity beside more precise suspension and brakes!!!
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It looks great, except from the front...and the back...and any angle that you can see the front or the back.
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Not sure if this chassis can handle 24% more power on a good shape. That power is under the hood of M8 with 400 lb more mass, about 1" wider track and 1" lower center of gravity beside more precise suspension and brakes!!!
Lets see
My X3MC makes 720 hp on E50 (dynojet verified), with zero problems after 10k miles.
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Hmmmm this looks good...hmmmm 🤔 will I ever get one? 🤔
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https://tiresandparts.net/news/manhart-mh3-600-mh4-600/

"Although the new BMW M3 (G80) and M4 (G82) are only just rolling into the showrooms of BMW dealers across the globe, the tuning specialists at MANHART Performance are already giving us a preview on the tuning program currently in development for the new high- performance sedan and coupé.

The names of the variants tuned by MANHART Performance will – as usual – allow conclusions to be drawn about the engine performance of both: The MANHART MH3 600 and MH4 600, based on the factory 510 HP and 650 Nm strong Competition variants, they promise approximately 600 HP. To be more precise, after the installation of the MANHART MHtronik Powerbox, their output should increase to approximately 620 HP and 750 Nm. The standard 30 HP weaker non-Competition M3 and M4 come to approximately 590 HP after installing the MANHART MHtronik.

In terms of exhaust technology, MANHART Performance will be offering both cat-back and OPF-back exhaust systems – each with twin carbon tailpipes. Each will also be available with optional middle silencer replacement pipes.

In addition, MANHART Performance will offer lowering springs made by H&R for the new M3 four-door and the new M4 two-door, as well as the in-house developed Concave One forged wheels in the dimensions 9.0×21 inches, with 265/30R21 tyres on the front and 10.5×21 inches with 305/25R21 tyres on the rear axle. As an option, the rims can have the MANHART-typical gold pinstripe. A decal kit with golden touches will be available for the body work of the MH3 600 and MH400 600.

For the new models, new carbon aerodynamic parts such as a bonnet, front splitter, rear spoiler and diffuser as well as side flaps are also being developed right now.

Phase 1 of the tuning program includes a wide variety of parts and options, which will allow clients to tune and upgrade their beloved new Bimmer. For the second phase MANHART Performance will go a step further, taking both the M3 and M4 to the next level. Stay tuned for the release of this tuning package later in the year."
Are Manhart parts available in USA and who is their dealer? Just curious, Thx
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"Although the new BMW M3 (G80) and M4 (G82) are only just rolling into the showrooms of BMW dealers across the globe, the tuning specialists at MANHART Performance are already giving us a preview on the tuning program currently in development for the new high- performance sedan and coupé.

The names of the variants tuned by MANHART Performance will – as usual – allow conclusions to be drawn about the engine performance of both: The MANHART MH3 600 and MH4 600, based on the factory 510 HP and 650 Nm strong Competition variants, they promise approximately 600 HP. To be more precise, after the installation of the MANHART MHtronik Powerbox, their output should increase to approximately 620 HP and 750 Nm. The standard 30 HP weaker non-Competition M3 and M4 come to approximately 590 HP after installing the MANHART MHtronik.

In terms of exhaust technology, MANHART Performance will be offering both cat-back and OPF-back exhaust systems – each with twin carbon tailpipes. Each will also be available with optional middle silencer replacement pipes.

In addition, MANHART Performance will offer lowering springs made by H&R for the new M3 four-door and the new M4 two-door, as well as the in-house developed Concave One forged wheels in the dimensions 9.0×21 inches, with 265/30R21 tyres on the front and 10.5×21 inches with 305/25R21 tyres on the rear axle. As an option, the rims can have the MANHART-typical gold pinstripe. A decal kit with golden touches will be available for the body work of the MH3 600 and MH400 600.

For the new models, new carbon aerodynamic parts such as a bonnet, front splitter, rear spoiler and diffuser as well as side flaps are also being developed right now.

Phase 1 of the tuning program includes a wide variety of parts and options, which will allow clients to tune and upgrade their beloved new Bimmer. For the second phase MANHART Performance will go a step further, taking both the M3 and M4 to the next level. Stay tuned for the release of this tuning package later in the year."
Are Manhart parts available in USA and who is their dealer? Just curious, Thx
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Not sure if this chassis can handle 24% more power on a good shape. That power is under the hood of M8 with 400 lb more mass, about 1" wider track and 1" lower center of gravity beside more precise suspension and brakes!!!
Lets see
My X3MC makes 720 hp on E50 (dynojet verified), with zero problems after 10k miles.
And your X3M weigh about 4500 lb!
This is exactly what I am talking about
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not bad not bad
the gold rims tho, not for me
Agreed. Much of it very cool, but all those gold pins stripes and decals and the gold wheels? No thanks. Just need the screaming bird on the hood! Can we get T-tops??

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