[AYounglove10]

Originally Posted by Zamorskii

Lol, ok I googled him. A British journalist and car reviewer on Youtube with under 500k subscribers. Am I supposed to be impressed?

Chris Harris has never been the one to over-promote his own material. The quality of his journalism and charisma on camera did that for him and landed him his spot on Top Gear and as a founding member of Collecting Cars today.

He’s been at the very apex of automotive journalism going on 20 years now, from his early days at Evo and his time on the now defunct Drive Network (early YouTube premium content days).

He got there because of his own self deprecating sense of self (he definitely doesn’t think of himself as the GOAT), wicked talent behind the wheel, and a sharp ability to provide cultural and comparative context when reviewing cars.

Should you be impressed? Yes, yes you should.

[G80indy]

I like The Rocket, Randy Pobst

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by sturgeongeneral

There’s a reason I seldom post here. Internet forums really do bring out the worst in people, or (maybe more accurately) reveal people’s true nature. Many of the remarks in this thread wouldn’t be made in person, or would be phrased a whole lot differently.

There’s nothing wrong with disagreeing or being critical, and I'm not saying we have to be entirely clinical, but it should be done thoughtfully, constructively, and charitably. But that seems to be asking for a lot these days.

You Sir, are my new hero

[aaaaah]

Originally Posted by JK479

I’ll still take an m340i Xdrive OVER the m3 xdrive because of the looks. I’m also a former e90, e46 and f30 guy. I think if you love a look- and don’t like another look- you can’t come around based on speed.

In Australia, an Alpina B3 Touring is $40k cheaper (AUD). Seems like a no brainer to me...

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by aaaaah

In Australia, an Alpina B3 Touring is $40k cheaper (AUD). Seems like a no brainer to me...

Funny you mentioned that; I've actually looked at that option rather seriously. Not sure about the engine though.

[M2Cmtl]

What amazes me is the amount of driving he does. He actually drives all his cars.

[Ska8139]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

I won’t bother attempting to show the light to someone who thinks an M3 wagon has absolutely identical performance to an M3 sedan. However, I will point to the objective fact that people are potentially “losing” around £5315 ($6280) buying a wagon over the sedan.

And gaining much more practicality in the process. For those of us who need the trunk space, that’s a welcome trade off. And for those who don’t need or want it, or don’t find the style attractive, they can stick with the sedan versions of the cars. But the idea you are losing much by going the wagon route, if anything, in performance is a fallacy.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Ska8139

And gaining much more practicality in the process. For those of us who need the trunk space, that’s a welcome trade off. And for those who don’t need or want it, or don’t find the style attractive, they can stick with the sedan versions of the cars. But the idea you are losing much by going the wagon route, if anything, in performance is a fallacy.

Wagons are usually heavier due to having to reinforce the rear to maintain chassis stiffness. Most people won’t notice though, so the fact that an M wagon exists is pretty special.

[cbertels]

Originally Posted by playswcars

Everybody ended up eating their words on the G8x, it’s actually hilarious.

Some of us still hate it just as much as we did at launch and just moved to another brand.

[aaaaah]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Funny you mentioned that; I've actually looked at that option rather seriously. Not sure about the engine though.

B58 is rather stout (and sounds better than the S58 in my opinion). Alpina has full factory backing from BMW now as far as I know and the engines are upgraded to support the additional power. It's a less complicated engine overall than the S58 so there's less stuff to break?

Alpina green, brown interior, multispoke wheels...

[JK479]

Originally Posted by aaaaah

In Australia, an Alpina B3 Touring is $40k cheaper (AUD). Seems like a no brainer to me...

Australia is an amazing country! Seems right their cars are more affordable! I’m envious !

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by aaaaah

B58 is rather stout (and sounds better than the S58 in my opinion). Alpina has full factory backing from BMW now as far as I know and the engines are upgraded to support the additional power. It's a less complicated engine overall than the S58 so there's less stuff to break?

Alpina green, brown interior, multispoke wheels...

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the B58 but somehow can't justify the asking price for a B3 with a B58 knowing that after five minutes of ownership, the B3 will depreciate by 50%

That's not to say that the M3 Touring won't depreciate as badly but at least it'll be fun driving it as fast as it depreciates

[wasya152]

Originally Posted by madpistol

You know, you can get your point across without being a total dbag. It takes some practice, but it is possible.

Oh, I'm sorry. Let me get the participation ribbon award bag so no one feels bad. 😊

[aaaaah]

Originally Posted by JK479

Australia is an amazing country! Seems right their cars are more affordable! I’m envious !

Don't let a price differential make you think they are affordable. It's AU $177500 for an M3 wagon before options/on road costs/insurance. You'd not get much change out of $200k for one once you started driving it.

[04S]

Originally Posted by aaaaah

Don't let a price differential make you think they are affordable. It's AU $177500 for an M3 wagon before options/on road costs/insurance. You'd not get much change out of $200k for one once you started driving it.

This. Our cars are NOT affordable by any means.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by wasya152

Oh, I'm sorry. Let me get the participation ribbon award bag so no one feels bad. 😊

Originally Posted by aaaaah

Don't let a price differential make you think they are affordable. It's AU $177500 for an M3 wagon before options/on road costs/insurance. You'd not get much change out of $200k for one once you started driving it.

Originally Posted by 04S

This. Our cars are NOT affordable by any means.

My M4CSL will cost me over AUD$340K (USD$250K) by the time it hits the road. That's USD$100k over what Americans pay for theirs.

For that kind of money, if I lived in the US, I'd be able to get the M4CSL and a M5 on top of that.

[madpistol]

Originally Posted by wasya152

Oh, I'm sorry. Let me get the participation ribbon award bag so no one feels bad. 😊

Oh, I'm sorry. I had no idea that common human decency was a foreign concept to you. My bad. Please... carry on.

[Kevin_The_Clean1]

Looking forward to seeing this Chris Harris video on TopGear soon...

[04S]

Who is Chris Harris and why should I care what he thinks?

Sorry couldn't help myself. Such a classic ....

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by aaaaah

B58 is rather stout (and sounds better than the S58 in my opinion). Alpina has full factory backing from BMW now as far as I know and the engines are upgraded to support the additional power. It's a less complicated engine overall than the S58 so there's less stuff to break?

The current Alpina B3 has an S58 engine, albeit with a different tune compared to the M3.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by mbanck

The current Alpina B3 has an S58 engine, albeit with a different tune compared to the M3.

Since the LCI I guess

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Since the LCI I guess

No, since always I believe, it had the S58 before the M3 was even a thing.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/09/13/n...coming-bmw-m3/