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      03-03-2022, 07:51 PM   #133
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Not sure if this has been discussed. But if the car runs better with JB4 in efficient, this means you wouldn't be able to use launch control correct?
I may start a thread to clarify this issue, not only with JB4, but with other piggyback systems, since I want to know as well.
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I may start a thread to clarify this issue, not only with JB4, but with other piggyback systems, since I want to know as well.
yeah I keep asking on other posts but no one seems to have an answer.
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I may start a thread to clarify this issue, not only with JB4, but with other piggyback systems, since I want to know as well.
I've done 100+ 60-130 Dragy runs(including on ethanol) and can confirm the car runs the fastest on efficient. Not as much testing on 1/4 mile since mine is RWD manual but you cannot use LC on efficient mode. Must be on Sport+ for both auto and manuals.
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Port injection + full bolt ons
No, it doesn't. You're using E85. This is a pump gas thread. Also your numbers are invalid due to slope/low satellite.
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No, it doesn't. You're using E85. This is a pump gas thread. Also your numbers are invalid due to slope/low satellite.
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No, it doesn't. You're using E85. This is a pump gas thread. Also your numbers are invalid due to slope/low satellite.

Okay i will go be slow somewhere else.


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Don't forget that back in the day with RaceLogic boxes -2.0% was standard. And, I'm sure it's still accepted on like 6speed forum in the master list.
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      03-13-2022, 10:27 PM   #141
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No, it doesn't. You're using E85. This is a pump gas thread. Also your numbers are invalid due to slope/low satellite.
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Does this count?

Port injection + full bolt ons

Don't forget that back in the day with RaceLogic boxes -2.0% was standard. And, I'm sure it's still accepted on like 6speed forum in the master list.
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Port injection + full bolt ons

Don't forget that back in the day with RaceLogic boxes -2.0% was standard. And, I'm sure it's still accepted on like 6speed forum in the master list.
Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
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Hi

Finally a proper ECU tune, just the 91 OTS map from Bootmod3. I have JB4 too but it was disabled (map 0).



Need to improve the shift from 3rd to 4th. Still it's a good baseline. I hope to have the custom tune soon. This is slow compared to what other GX are doing with E50, but still I think it's good for this map.

Mods: Catless DP and Front Mounted Intake (BMS).
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?
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Hi

Finally a proper ECU tune, just the 91 OTS map from Bootmod3. I have JB4 too but it was disabled (map 0).


Need to improve the shift from 3rd to 4th. Still it's a good baseline. I hope to have the custom tune soon. This is slow compared to what other GX are doing with E50, but still I think it's good for this map.

Mods: Catless DP and Front Mounted Intake (BMS).
Nice, curious since you got catless DP why did you not go for the Stage 2 OTS tune?

Did you flash it yourself or through a shop?

I'm so tempted to send my ECU to Femto myself and flash it via BM3. The only tricky part will be removing the ECU I guess
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?

I don't know to be honest. I hAve not yet Dynoed . Its AWD.


650ish maybe 700 at best ? Would be a guess.
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Nice, curious since you got catless DP why did you not go for the Stage 2 OTS tune?

Did you flash it yourself or through a shop?

I'm so tempted to send my ECU to Femto myself and flash it via BM3. The only tricky part will be removing the ECU I guess
Hi, it's actually Stage 2 OTS. The boost target is (14.7+22) psi.

The flash was done at home, first with my laptop and then with my Android Phone. You only need the Femto unlock.

Removing the ECU is easy though, there is a vid in YT from RK Tunes on how to remove it. The hard part are the two plastic clips behind, but you can squeeze your hand and use your fingers to pull them up.

I am a bit disappointed with these runs, I was expecting low 8s, not high 8s, but my shifting is in part to blame, these cars (manual) have very long gears, so either you start at second gear and shift just at 60 mph or start in third gear at 40 mph with no boost and hope to build boost by 60 mph, then the shift in the middle.

Maybe a custom tune would target 24 psi or so and more aggressive timing, I'll wait for that.

Edit: Does anyone knows what is the stock boost target for the base and the competition? From what I read is 15~16 psi for the base and 18~19 psi for the competition, can someone confirm or correct?
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?

I don't know to be honest. I hAve not yet Dynoed . Its AWD.


650ish maybe 700 at best ? Would be a guess.
What is your setup?
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?

I don't know to be honest. I hAve not yet Dynoed . Its AWD.


650ish maybe 700 at best ? Would be a guess.
What is your setup?
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

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Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?
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Is still does 6.09 on an uphill and valid. But its Ethanol so most wont care.
Nice numbers.

What do you think you're pushing to the ground?
Also, is yours a AWD or RWD?

I don't know to be honest. I hAve not yet Dynoed . Its AWD.


650ish maybe 700 at best ? Would be a guess.
What is your setup?

The usual exhaust/ downpipes/ intake/ stock turbo/ exutek- reflex tune with port injection.
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Hi, it's actually Stage 2 OTS. The boost target is (14.7+22) psi.

The flash was done at home, first with my laptop and then with my Android Phone. You only need the Femto unlock.

Removing the ECU is easy though, there is a vid in YT from RK Tunes on how to remove it. The hard part are the two plastic clips behind, but you can squeeze your hand and use your fingers to pull them up.

I am a bit disappointed with these runs, I was expecting low 8s, not high 8s, but my shifting is in part to blame, these cars (manual) have very long gears, so either you start at second gear and shift just at 60 mph or start in third gear at 40 mph with no boost and hope to build boost by 60 mph, then the shift in the middle.

Maybe a custom tune would target 24 psi or so and more aggressive timing, I'll wait for that.

Edit: Does anyone knows what is the stock boost target for the base and the competition? From what I read is 15~16 psi for the base and 18~19 psi for the competition, can someone confirm or correct?
Gotcha thanks!

Would you mind providing a link to said RK Tunes video? Had a look at YouTube but could not find it.

Alongside the shifting, I think you will notice a substantial difference going 93 octane if that is possible in your area

Surprised stage 2 BM3 is only 22 psi! I think competition is 16/17 psi if I am not mistaken, I'm fairly positive it's not as much as 18 or 19 but someone can correct me if wrong


EDIT: Nvm found the video:


PS: MHD OTS maps look really good too, made by PureBoost and promise around 700 flywheel hp on their stage2
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Just for fun while my track tires were still on I got them warm and did two 3.63 0-60s and a 7.16 0-100.

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Just for fun while my track tires were still on I got them warm and did two 3.63 0-60s and a 7.16 0-100.

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Nice RWD? Did you do any 100-200 runs. Have you compared map 6 to map 7?
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Hi, it's actually Stage 2 OTS. The boost target is (14.7+22) psi.

The flash was done at home, first with my laptop and then with my Android Phone. You only need the Femto unlock.

Removing the ECU is easy though, there is a vid in YT from RK Tunes on how to remove it. The hard part are the two plastic clips behind, but you can squeeze your hand and use your fingers to pull them up.

I am a bit disappointed with these runs, I was expecting low 8s, not high 8s, but my shifting is in part to blame, these cars (manual) have very long gears, so either you start at second gear and shift just at 60 mph or start in third gear at 40 mph with no boost and hope to build boost by 60 mph, then the shift in the middle.

Maybe a custom tune would target 24 psi or so and more aggressive timing, I'll wait for that.

Edit: Does anyone knows what is the stock boost target for the base and the competition? From what I read is 15~16 psi for the base and 18~19 psi for the competition, can someone confirm or correct?
Have you tried brake boosting in 3rd?
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