Winter vs All Season tires for G80

GoodGuyAvi · 10-13-2022, 09:45 AM

Guys any one running 285/35 R20 in rear ? (stock is 285/30)

thinking to get PILOT SPORT ALL SEASON 4 but I want add little bit of fatty to the back (Running 10mm spacers in a back)

Thank you for help

Anderson11 · 10-13-2022, 11:02 AM

Check tire size.com. There is a big difference between 30 and 35 in the rear....

UNCM2 · 10-17-2022, 04:15 PM

Square set up for winter here. M1000

GoodGuyAvi · 10-17-2022, 04:21 PM

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Square set up for winter here. M1000

yooo man you just killed it

Llarry · 10-18-2022, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodGuyAvi

Guys any one running 285/35 R20 in rear ? (stock is 285/30)

thinking to get PILOT SPORT ALL SEASON 4 but I want add little bit of fatty to the back (Running 10mm spacers in a back)

I would think that would play havoc with your traction/stability control.

EMCCM · 10-18-2022, 12:08 PM

Those looking for DWS, it seems the DWS is discontinued, and the DWS Plus is the new one. Tirerack says they have them in stock in OEM 19/20 sizes. I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't decide between this and going full winters this year.

DocWeatherington · 10-18-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EMCCM

Those looking for DWS, it seems the DWS is discontinued, and the DWS Plus is the new one. Tirerack says they have them in stock in OEM 19/20 sizes. I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't decide between this and going full winters this year.

The question is what do you need for whatever your typical winter snowfall is....

Aalfred · 10-18-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EMCCM

Those looking for DWS, it seems the DWS is discontinued, and the DWS Plus is the new one. Tirerack says they have them in stock in OEM 19/20 sizes. I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't decide between this and going full winters this year.

Wasnt it always been DWS 06 plus? I dont see the rears in stock at tirerack. Did you check their website?

Kief · 10-18-2022, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aalfred

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Originally Posted by EMCCM

Those looking for DWS, it seems the DWS is discontinued, and the DWS Plus is the new one. Tirerack says they have them in stock in OEM 19/20 sizes. I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't decide between this and going full winters this year.

Wasnt it always been DWS 06 plus? I dont see the rears in stock at tirerack. Did you check their website?

^this

kiw1 · 10-19-2022, 03:26 PM

Finally got my 19" square setup installed on 827's and it looks awesome. What PSI are you guys running? I was thinking same as stock 19/20 setup but wanted to see if there was an official PSI for the winter 19" square setup.

Aalfred · 10-19-2022, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kiw1

Finally got my 19" square setup installed on 827's and it looks awesome. What PSI are you guys running? I was thinking same as stock 19/20 setup but wanted to see if there was an official PSI for the winter 19" square setup.

Winter fast approaching. Just had some snow yesterday

827 wheels- check
TPMS - Check
Wheel balancing weights - Check
Car-- Still waiting

EMCCM · 10-19-2022, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aalfred

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Originally Posted by EMCCM

Those looking for DWS, it seems the DWS is discontinued, and the DWS Plus is the new one. Tirerack says they have them in stock in OEM 19/20 sizes. I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't decide between this and going full winters this year.

Wasnt it always been DWS 06 plus? I dont see the rears in stock at tirerack. Did you check their website?

I don't know if I'm going crazy, but I had them in my cart yesterday (19/20 OEM fitment). Now today they show back order. Maybe I configured it wrong and don't remember or I'm a fool for not placing the order.

EMCCM · 10-19-2022, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

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Originally Posted by EMCCM

Those looking for DWS, it seems the DWS is discontinued, and the DWS Plus is the new one. Tirerack says they have them in stock in OEM 19/20 sizes. I'm about to pull the trigger, but can't decide between this and going full winters this year.

The question is what do you need for whatever your typical winter snowfall is....

I commute between Chicago and Milwaukee. We don't get a ton of snowfall compared to other parts of the Midwest, but due to my job I sometimes need to commute on roads that aren't cleared. Last year in my M5 I did this on all seasons, which was "okay", and it was very nice having the improved dry grip/sidewall stiffness compared to snow tires (had Nokian's before). So, I know I can get by with all seasons. If only I was crazy enough to have three setups, summer, all seasons, and a set of wheels with snow tires for the occasional days I'm forced to drive on uncleared roads.

DocWeatherington · 10-19-2022, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EMCCM

I don't know if I'm going crazy, but I had them in my cart yesterday (19/20 OEM fitment). Now today they show back order. Maybe I configured it wrong and don't remember or I'm a fool for not placing the order.

I've been watching tire rack and the inventory is live...so check back in a few days and they may have stock...

DocWeatherington · 10-19-2022, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EMCCM

I commute between Chicago and Milwaukee. We don't get a ton of snowfall compared to other parts of the Midwest, but due to my job I sometimes need to commute on roads that aren't cleared. Last year in my M5 I did this on all seasons, which was "okay", and it was very nice having the improved dry grip/sidewall stiffness compared to snow tires (had Nokian's before). So, I know I can get by with all seasons. If only I was crazy enough to have three setups, summer, all seasons, and a set of wheels with snow tires for the occasional days I'm forced to drive on uncleared roads.

Or just summers and a high-performance winter tire... Vs a hard core winter

kiw1 · 10-19-2022, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aalfred

Winter fast approaching. Just had some snow yesterday

827 wheels- check
TPMS - Check
Wheel balancing weights - Check
Car-- Still waiting

They look SO GOOD in person.

You don't need spacers for the rears either

Fugly M3 · 10-20-2022, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by coldsteelrain

I just got a set of Michelin Pilot Alpine 5's squared on 19's 826M
265/40/19
Front 12mm spacer
Rear 15mm spacer
Lowered on KW V4

Are just the tires squared or did you buy new rear wheels too? Edit...just remembered the rears are 20, so must be new rears.

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Originally Posted by kiw1

They look SO GOOD in person.

You don't need spacers for the rears either

What are you running up in Mammoth? I have a place up there and curious how I want to set up for trips up there.

kiw1 · 10-20-2022, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

What are you running up in Mammoth? I have a place up there and curious how I want to set up for trips up there.

I live here so am running dedicated summer and winter setups on both vehicles.

On the M3 275/35-19 PA5's on 827ms (dedicated winter setup). We have a plow guy and I also have a 32" blower so I can always clear my driveway. When it's stormy I'll be using the X5 which has a dedicated setup on Wintrac Pros which perform great, even in heavy snow like in December last year. The X5 also has air suspension so I can raise the car by a few inches if I need the clearance.

If you're planning to bring the M3 up, I would think you could get away with all seasons on the stock setup, you would just need to be careful in more than a couple of inches of snow because at that point you are basically a plow.

Fugly M3 · 10-20-2022, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kiw1

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Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

What are you running up in Mammoth? I have a place up there and curious how I want to set up for trips up there.

I live here so am running dedicated summer and winter setups on both vehicles.

On the M3 275/35-19 PA5's on 827ms (dedicated winter setup). We have a plow guy and I also have a 32" blower so I can always clear my driveway. When it's stormy I'll be using the X5 which has a dedicated setup on Wintrac Pros which perform great, even in heavy snow like in December last year. The X5 also has air suspension so I can raise the car by a few inches if I need the clearance.

If you're planning to bring the M3 up, I would think you could get away with all seasons on the stock setup, you would just need to be careful in more than a couple of inches of snow because at that point you are basically a plow.

Thanks. I figured PSAS4s will be fine. I've taken my summer tires up there for years when ground is dry and then the Land Rover for storms. Just will be nice to be able to use the better highway car for light to moderate snow situations.

kiw1 · 10-20-2022, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

Thanks. I figured PSAS4s will be fine. I've taken my summer tires up there for years when ground is dry and then the Land Rover for storms. Just will be nice to be able to use the better highway car for light to moderate snow situations.

Cool. Drop me a DM when you are looking to come up. My wife and I both snowboard and are always looking for new like-minded folks to ride with

DocWeatherington · 10-20-2022, 06:00 PM

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Fugly M3 · 10-20-2022, 06:16 PM

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Cool. Drop me a DM when you are looking to come up. My wife and I both snowboard and are always looking for new like-minded folks to ride with

I ski, but will do!

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