[BMWRacer523]

Originally Posted by luckylingy

New car, old 'problem'. CDV was the solution 25 years ago on E39 6-speeds, whose engagement points were notoriously vague. I've had about two dozen BMWs over the years; even the best ones aren't as precise as Honda's best. Then again, they're often dealing with more torque or horsepower.

Agree. I had cdv delete, rogue ssk in my e39 540 6spd and 1-2 was still awkward. Best BMW manual trans was in the e30s imo.

[The Ching]

Originally Posted by GoFastGoFish

Ok so maybe this is my first BMW MT.. but this thing feels worse than some Hondas or Mazdas . Am I crazy?.. the shifter feels flighty.. and this clutch is a shit show . I feel like 1st and 2 is a guessing game with when the engagement occurs . Every damn time .. it's like muscle memory just isn't going to be a thing . Then as far as the shifter is concerned it is actually a mess with 5th ..it just doesn't feel smooth or directed.. like the tolerances of a Willy's ...

1200 mile service is in the morning.. and I am about to tell them to keep it until it feels like an 80k car..

Not to mention.. this steering pull when lka is disabled is stupid

Ugh.. kinda mad.

I found a change of OEM shifter makes a huge difference, I've had the same issue with my F22's rubbery shifter feel. I swapped the stock one out with the M performance, and shifting felt more direct and precise. I ended up just getting the aluminum looking M Performance one for my G80, and it's produced similar improvements.

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by slipp3ryching

I found a change of OEM shifter makes a huge difference, I've had the same issue with my F22's rubbery shifter feel. I swapped the stock one out with the M performance, and shifting felt more direct and precise. I ended up just getting the aluminum looking M Performance one for my G80, and it's produced similar improvements.

Where did you get the shifter (and/or do you have the part number)?

[The Ching]

Originally Posted by bri1042

Where did you get the shifter (and/or do you have the part number)?

I bought mine off EBay, part number in the pic.

[chris3g]

Originally Posted by slipp3ryching

I bought mine off EBay, part number in the pic.

FYI that's the "BMW performance" knob, different from the M performance. M performance P/N is 25-11-2-222-534

[The Ching]

Originally Posted by chris3g

FYI that's the "BMW performance" knob, different from the M performance. M performance P/N is 25-11-2-222-534

You are correct.

[luckylingy]

Originally Posted by BMWRacer523

Agree. I had cdv delete, rogue ssk in my e39 540 6spd and 1-2 was still awkward. Best BMW manual trans was in the e30s imo.

My favorite manual transmission was either my 330i ZHP or E34 525i, with the E85 close behind. The ZHP and Z4M had short, clear throws; the E34 was smooth as warm butter. Going from the E34 to the E39 540 6spd was a letdown in the transmission/clutch department (but certainly an upgrade in other areas).

[testing02hwr]

Looking to get a G80 after my M340i lease is up but I am having a hard time deciding between MT and AT

If I get AT I am afraid that the G80 will feel pretty similar to the M340i (same trans + won't be using all of the G80's power on public roads). On the other hand, I am afraid that the MT will frustrate me especially after hearing BMW clutch engagement is vague.

Before the M340i I drove the 86/BRZ first gen and GTI last gen MTs. I would always smile when driving but I sometimes got annoyed with day-to-day errands. Going up a parking garage ramp into a busy pedestrian crosswalk and having Prius up my ass was never fun even with hill assist. My OCD nature also had me paranoid I was burning the clutch so I would always try to take off with the lowest amount of RPMs. The G80 has a ton of torque so I was hoping all of this would go away in a modern MT but I wanted to see how the G80s MT felt from actual owners.

[Mac Daddy]

Originally Posted by luckylingy

My favorite manual transmission was either my 330i ZHP or E34 525i, with the E85 close behind. The ZHP and Z4M had short, clear throws; the E34 was smooth as warm butter. Going from the E34 to the E39 540 6spd was a letdown in the transmission/clutch department (but certainly an upgrade in other areas).

I have had 5 BMW manuals, including 2 M cars. My favorite was the E60 550 - with the LCI they gave the sport package cars a short shift kit that really improved it. Coming out of an E39 540 and then later going to a E60 M5 the difference was striking. Throws were shorter and uptake was smoother as well. That 540i was really the worst manual I have ever driven, even with a CDV delete. The huge torque of that M62 right off idle didn't help any.

The E90 M3 was pretty good, and my current F30 328 isn't bad. But the throws are a bit longer and the feel just a bit more vague than some other makes I have driven.

I thought the G82 I drove recently was better than most.

[Flying05]

There is nothing wrong with this manual. And I have owned many to compare with including the infamous s2000 that everyone says is so great. And it is, but different in its own way. Either learn to drive it properly and understand it's capabilities, or sell your car and go by a Honda. Too many Karen's in here.

[MTM3]

Originally Posted by Flying05

There is nothing wrong with this manual. And I have owned many to compare with including the infamous s2000 that everyone says is so great. And it is, but different in its own way. Either learn to drive it properly and understand it's capabilities, or sell your car and go by a Honda. Too many Karen's in here.

Same. Fine MT, nothing is wrong with it. I personally didn’t like S2000 snickety snick shifter.

[808G80]

I can't create a new post for some reason but has anyone had an issue with the clutch pedal? I was driving yesterday and went from 3rd to 2nd and heard a crunching noise coming from the clutch pedal. After another 5 shifts, this fell on the floor mat. Looks like a spring and the clutch feels softer. Am I the only one that had this happen?

[overfreeze]

BMW has always made garbage feeling shifters. Nothing new here...

[W288SH]

Originally Posted by testing02hwr

Looking to get a G80 after my M340i lease is up but I am having a hard time deciding between MT and AT

If I get AT I am afraid that the G80 will feel pretty similar to the M340i (same trans + won't be using all of the G80's power on public roads). On the other hand, I am afraid that the MT will frustrate me especially after hearing BMW clutch engagement is vague.

Before the M340i I drove the 86/BRZ first gen and GTI last gen MTs. I would always smile when driving but I sometimes got annoyed with day-to-day errands. Going up a parking garage ramp into a busy pedestrian crosswalk and having Prius up my ass was never fun even with hill assist. My OCD nature also had me paranoid I was burning the clutch so I would always try to take off with the lowest amount of RPMs. The G80 has a ton of torque so I was hoping all of this would go away in a modern MT but I wanted to see how the G80s MT felt from actual owners.

The harder you drive the 6MT the better the clutch engagement feels.

[Indo Rider]

Originally Posted by 808G80

I can't create a new post for some reason but has anyone had an issue with the clutch pedal? I was driving yesterday and went from 3rd to 2nd and heard a crunching noise coming from the clutch pedal. After another 5 shifts, this fell on the floor mat. Looks like a spring and the clutch feels softer. Am I the only one that had this happen?

Sounds/looks like the spring that helps the clutch pedal return to the the full up position. I had that break before on an older bmw, but only after like 8 years. Sucks it would break so soon on a newer car, but should only cost a few bucks and would be an easy fix if that's all it is.

[808G80]

Originally Posted by Indo Rider

Sounds/looks like the spring that helps the clutch pedal return to the the full up position. I had that break before on an older bmw, but only after like 8 years. Sucks it would break so soon on a newer car, but should only cost a few bucks and would be an easy fix if that's all it is.

Ah okay. I never had this happen before haha thanks

[Sparapet]

Originally Posted by testing02hwr

Looking to get a G80 after my M340i lease is up but I am having a hard time deciding between MT and AT

If I get AT I am afraid that the G80 will feel pretty similar to the M340i (same trans + won't be using all of the G80's power on public roads). On the other hand, I am afraid that the MT will frustrate me especially after hearing BMW clutch engagement is vague.

Before the M340i I drove the 86/BRZ first gen and GTI last gen MTs. I would always smile when driving but I sometimes got annoyed with day-to-day errands. Going up a parking garage ramp into a busy pedestrian crosswalk and having Prius up my ass was never fun even with hill assist. My OCD nature also had me paranoid I was burning the clutch so I would always try to take off with the lowest amount of RPMs. The G80 has a ton of torque so I was hoping all of this would go away in a modern MT but I wanted to see how the G80s MT felt from actual owners.

I traded my 2020 330i M-sport for a 2022 M3 MT...I went from "this is fun, I can do things" to "holy shit how did I tolerate an automatic for this long". This is my third BMW MT, the previous two were a 328i sedan and 328i coupe. The M3 transmission feels very similar to those, but the clutch feels longer. Also, the 1->2 shift took a couple of days to figure out and I can't stand the rev matching, but it turns off.

One thing I also noticed, it's damn near impossible to stall this car. It gives an rpm boost in first so you can get it moving from a stop to about 5mph without touching the gas pedal. Noticed it in heavy traffic and admittedly that was a pleasant surprise. Made sitting in traffic way less frustrating for having a MT. But man...overall, love it to pieces and have no idea why they even bother with AT.

[GoodGuyAvi]

Originally Posted by Sparapet

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. It gives an rpm boost in first so you can get it moving from a stop to about 5mph without touching the gas pedal.

Absolutely enjoyable

[james550imanual]

Prolly more of a bmw thing. On my 5th bmw manual (last one was a 550) and all have been fine. Not much of a gamechanger to make me switch

But i get ya…I had Acura and Hondas before..and their clutch was buttery smooth but ofcourse they were 180hp engines so probably much easier to harness that power (or lack thereof). I'm still very jerky with the 1-2 gear Shift in my m3 but I'm Attributing that to me not being used to it yet.

[boss2k]

Anyone installed a weighted knob on their G80/G82 , that's the 1st thing I would do as I dont like the stock shifter knob

[sbgolfer2221]

Originally Posted by LuckyBrand

I only have a few hundred miles on mine so far but I've noticed the stutter from 1st to 2nd as well and thought it was me lol and some of it might be. I've been playing with different ways to get it right but have noticed that yes if you slip it ever so slightly it does transition much more smoothly. Not sure I want to do that always but....I did install the BMS clutch stop yesterday and have noticed it was a little better but I need more time now with the clutch stop installed to get used to it all.

Now that some time has passed, have you liked the clutch stop?

[m3_blanc]

Originally Posted by chris3g

FYI that's the "BMW performance" knob, different from the M performance. M performance P/N is 25-11-2-222-534

Anyone know if you can get the Mperf one without the boot anywhere?

Also, I just came from a 2019 WRX STI and feel like this thing shifts stupid easy. The auto rev match makes it child's play. I've got full titanium exhaust & intake with downpipe and it seems like as aggressive it sounds the shifting almost didn't match, due to how smooth it was. Not seeing a reason (yet) to even do CDV del or anything? At 6000 miles right now.