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      05-07-2021, 09:48 PM   #1
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The G8x 6MT doesn’t have radar cruise but the Golf 6MT does

So here is a question to BMW! How come a VW Golf can have a 6 speed manual working great with radar cruise control and lane keep assist, but on a G80 M3, it is an impossible option? And YES, I am one of those people that would like this option on my $100k manual M3!
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      05-07-2021, 10:16 PM   #2
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Unfortunately you are punished because BMWs system is more advanced than vw. BMW system is capable of allowing the car to stop all the way and in stop and go traffic manage the vehicle speed autonomously from 0-40 mph all things that cannot be done without control of the gearbox. They would actually have to invest in designing a dumbed down system just to be compatible with the manual.
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      05-07-2021, 10:38 PM   #3
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Let's face it, BMW would have discontinued MT long time ago if it wasn't for the loyal fans in the US market that want to have cars that are more "engaging". The car as a whole is designed to be Auto, so you're lucky they threw you a bone and let you have it in MT. They are unlikely to dump money and resources into MT and come up with tools that MT folks probably don't really care for all that much.
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I mean, radar cruise control seems low on the totem pole of what should be on an M car. This is the first gen where you can get it in any version.

The argument of 'but a 20k Kia has it' is not very relevant. The M car had pretty different design goals than the 20k POS that has a few additional features
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      05-08-2021, 09:51 AM   #5
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I mean, radar cruise control seems low on the totem pole of what should be on an M car. This is the first gen where you can get it in any version.

The argument of 'but a 20k Kia has it' is not very relevant. The M car had pretty different design goals than the 20k POS that has a few additional features
You are right but it’s still a poor excuse of not being able to code it to a car that cost so much... it is just an M, not a CS or CSL hence it is also a luxury and comfortable car which has to have all the latest gadgets. Back in the days you could get a manual 5 series with either a 6 cylinder or V8 and it was available with all the latest BMW tech. And guess what, I can guarantee you that the manual take rate was much less on these than it will be on a 6 speed G80 M3! Also they do have a dumb down radar cruise with lane keep assist which they could have easily implemented on the current car. All the excuses and explanations at this point are lame at best and it’s just weird how bmw is choosing to save every little penny on something simple like that! With the current trend that bmw is choosing to go with it will be not much longer when people will figure out better alternatives. Look at Cadillac, it’s basically knocking on Bmws rear quarter panel and might soon be ahead of them.
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You are right but it’s still a poor excuse of not being able to code it to a car that cost so much... it is just an M, not a CS or CSL
“It’s just an M” would make a lot more sense if the entire 3 series line didn’t exist.

Drive a 318i for a day and you’ll forget all about the lack of radar cruise in a base M3.
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I am wondering how does the golf system actually work with a stick? let say you put it in 6 gear and the car goes all the way to crawl speed and then wants to speed up again?. what does it do then? just cancel? or actually try to accelerate from 5mph to 70 mph in 6th gear and then stutter? and vice versa, if call in front of you pulls from 30 mph to 70 mphs while you're in 3rd gear does it hit the red line and disable ? My guess is it will just display "wrong gear" and disable

seems like a system with so many limitations that may only work in a very narrow range of speed and gears, it would be pretty much like the standard cruise that needs attention all the time... not something most folks would want to pay for
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      05-30-2021, 11:48 PM   #8
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Radar cruise is crazy the assist plus is 100% hands free for as long as you want under 40mph.

It would be near impossible for the 6mt to work that kind of magic.
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