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      04-23-2021, 01:52 PM   #23
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I've grown to not mind the Lexus predator grille. The only thing I don't like about this design is the strange checkmark DRL's under the headlights. Looks like bags under eyes. Front end would be cleaner without them. I've moved on from Japanese vehicles after driving them nearly exclusively for a few decades. They are competent but all feel like they were developed by scientists in a lab that have never actually driven a car. Cold and soulless. Kind of like Audi's but not as nice to sit in.
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Now that Throttle House exists there's no real reason to watch these guys.
i actually find the throttle house intros and stuff a bit cringey and prefer these guys lol but i may be in the minority on that. I dont need some kind of network television level of production value when im trying to see what a regular dude thinks of a car haha
Idk I think some of the intros are funny.

But honestly what's cringe about Straight Pipes is they don't even really review the driving aspects of the car.

I just don't feel like I learn anything from watching them.
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Idk I think some of the intros are funny.

But honestly what's cringe about Straight Pipes is they don't even really review the driving aspects of the car.

I just don't feel like I learn anything from watching them.
Yea I could see that...I kind of like the regular guys just driving a car angle but if you're looking for more technical stuff there's definitely better sources for sure
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Uhh non-car guys? They have multiple sports cars and interesting cars in their personal ownership. Can you tell me that a guy with a 5-speed straight piped foxbody isn't a car guy? That's a hard sell. I'm not huge fans of them, but clearly you don't know much about them to be saying they're not car guys.
They are comparing badges - fender badges. If they are comparing prestige or heritage attached to a badge, then sure, but the Lexus still loses. But no, they are actually comparing fender badges. Kidding me?
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      04-23-2021, 03:01 PM   #28
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These guys are so terrible, especially compared to Throttle House who are actual car guys that know about cars, driving, etc.
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CL will be glad to have the new ex BMW fanboys, should help with the numbers since nobody buys RCF except a small group of hardcore toyota fanboys. I mean who knew!!

A car this beautiful and yet has lackluster sales. Around here, we were being told by the masses that the GX cars will be sales failures. Yet, they appear to be selling more than the beautifully sculpted RCF. Mind you, base G80 still more capable than a so-called ' RCF Track Edition".
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CL will be glad to have the new ex BMW fanboys, should help with the numbers since nobody buys RCF except a small group of hardcore toyota fanboys. I mean who knew!!

A car this beautiful and yet has lackluster sales. Around here, we were being told by the masses that the GX cars will be sales failures. Yet, they appear to be selling more than the beautifully sculpted RCF. Mind you, base G80 still more capable than a so-called ' RCF Track Edition".
This is what killed me.

If the base G80 wins against the track edition then the G80 GTS will positively eat it alive.
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      04-23-2021, 06:03 PM   #31
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The new m3 looking like a Lexus really hits home in this video, especially from the back rear 3/4. Men in black wipe my memory and debadge them and I’d think they were coming from the same manufacturer
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The Lexus sounds so much better its refreshing hearing that V8. Not sure if I like the looks of the RCF looks sorta dated but honestly the new M3 doesn’t look that much better.

Can’t wait till the IS500 comes out!
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Was this M3 in the Oxide Gray color... ?
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This is what killed me.

If the base G80 wins against the track edition then the G80 GTS will positively eat it alive.
There wont be a G80 GTS...
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Looks like the Canadian lads had tons of fun on this one.

Now that Throttle House exists there's no real reason to watch these guys.
Harsh but true. I find myself gravitating to throttle house content, as well.
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      04-24-2021, 09:35 AM   #36
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This is what killed me.

If the base G80 wins against the track edition then the G80 GTS will positively eat it alive.
There wont be a G80 GTS...
Yeah

I meant g82.
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Yeah

I meant g82.
Even for the G82. Word has it BMW is substituting the GTS label for the CSL one.
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Car reviews from non-car guys? I'm good.
I find their videos interesting because I think they represent the average so called "I'm into cars" guys. They are very much a target demographic for something like the G80, but if they don't like the look then that's a knock against what BMW was going for.
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I find their videos interesting because I think they represent the average so called "I'm into cars" guys. They are very much a target demographic for something like the G80, but if they don't like the look then that's a knock against what BMW was going for.
True, because this new promotional campaign is a head scratcher for me.
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Yeah

I meant g82.
Even for the G82. Word has it BMW is substituting the GTS label for the CSL one.
Woof. Well in any event, whatever they chose to name their track special M3/4, is going to obliterate this Lexus.

Which isn't really a knock on the Lexus - it's a great car. Just not as great at doing M stuff as the M car.
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Car reviews from non-car guys? I'm good.
I find their videos interesting because I think they represent the average so called "I'm into cars" guys. They are very much a target demographic for something like the G80, but if they don't like the look then that's a knock against what BMW was going for.
Yeah - I can stomach the look of the G80 (even though I do prefer the F80) I just wish they were smarter about the marketing.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm pretty sure I am the target demographic for BMW: young, tech/finance industry, "upwardly mobile", whatever. Unfortunately, when I see the marketing campaign it makes me cringe. Definitely missed the mark with that stuff.
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I get that the G80/G82 grille is polarizing but man have I always hated these Lexus grilles. Not quite as bad on the smaller cars like the RCF but on the SUVs it looks hideous.
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These guys are so terrible, especially compared to Throttle House who are actual car guys that know about cars, driving, etc.
I think you're being unfair, you have to take a step back and consider context. Their target audience is more mainstream buyers who care about other aspects besides pure driving performance and technicals.

So, for example, if you have a family and buying this car as a daily driver, you might prefer TH because they're more car enthusiast oriented. However, your wife might value such things as infotainment, cupholders, seat comfort and how many boxes can fit into the trunk, and that's where SP shines. In fact, this niche is probably bigger than the car enthusiasts' niche.
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I think you're being unfair, you have to take a step back and consider context. Their target audience is more mainstream buyers who care about other aspects besides pure driving performance and technicals.

So, for example, if you have a family and buying this car as a daily driver, you might prefer TH because they're more car enthusiast oriented. However, your wife might value such things as infotainment, cupholders, seat comfort and how many boxes can fit into the trunk, and that's where SP shines. In fact, this niche is probably bigger than the car enthusiasts' niche.
We got Doug for that!
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