[bsmf8x]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

The most striking thing about this video, IMO, is how much better G82 looks. It has presence, it looks mean and ready to swallow the road
I loved the the F82, but next to the new car, it looks.. kind of dull.

I think you mean inhale the road

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

Didn't they ditch the CF drive shaft after 2015 on f8x

It ran from 2015 to somewhere in 2018.

They ditched the magnesium oil pan in early 2015 If I can recall. This was the one where you had to replace the bolt.

Basically, the 2015s are the special cars with all the fancy engineering The later ones just get creature comforts like Apple Carplay, Idrive 6, ICON headlights.

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by N1rve

It ran from 2015 to somewhere in 2018.

They ditched the magnesium oil pan in early 2015 If I can recall. This was the one where you had to replace the bolt.

Basically, the 2015s are the special cars with all the fancy engineering The later ones just get creature comforts like Apple Carplay, Idrive 6, ICON headlights.

'15s generally had the most spun crank hubs too haha

[Jimjamz]

A good vid from Joe. Enjoyed this one.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by momo3605

'15s generally had the most spun crank hubs too haha

IMO, ideally the best year is 2016. It's when everything is still there, in 2017 the cost cutting began and they took out the auto dimming passenger mirror. All of this cost cutting.

[Dimitri]

Originally Posted by GuyOh

He's the worst at launching cars

Was thinking the same. The F90 video was embarrassing to watch. Once a proper driver got a hold of it the M5 killed everybody in that video

[sollomon]

i wouldve so got the new m4 if the grill was just bigger.
not big enough lmfao

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by N1rve

It ran from 2015 to somewhere in 2018.

They ditched the magnesium oil pan in early 2015 If I can recall. This was the one where you had to replace the bolt.

Basically, the 2015s are the special cars with all the fancy engineering The later ones just get creature comforts like Apple Carplay, Idrive 6, ICON headlights.

The M4cs got the CF driveshaft and the mag oil pan till the end

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by momo3605

'15s generally had the most spun crank hubs too haha

Not really the case. According to this survey, the 2018+ are the ones that have the most SCH failure and the highest rate of failure. For whatever the result of this small sample survey mean, I don't believe there's any correlation between MY and SCH failures. IMO, the only significant factor for SCH failure is stock tune or aftermarket tune.

[Ilikemike]

Originally Posted by bsmf8x

Didn't they ditch the CF drive shaft after 2015 on f8x

I had a 2017 with the carbon fibre driveshaft, I believe they were discontinued in 2019...

[Nativetexan]

DCT showed its strength in the auto 30 punch run.

[Takumi587]

I had an F80 M3 and now an M340i. I can already imagine based on driving the M340i that the new G80 M3 will be a huge upgrade from the F80. I went from SMG to DCT and now to ZF. The ZF is amazing but I’m considering the manual transmission for G80 M3 due to the reviews saying the gear changes are more crisp. The rev matching is also a cool feature which I would assume is just as great as a Porsche Cayman GTS.

I’ll be honest I don’t miss the F80 M3 at all. Maybe the sound and looks but that’s it. If engine stats are the same then the infotainment and interior are worth the upgrade IMO.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The M4cs got the CF driveshaft and the mag oil pan till the end

I never really followed the M4CS timeline as there was too few and not a lot of posts about it.

[M6-Coupe]

I used to have F82 for 2 years and F80 for another 2.5 years. Admit F8x is a fantastic car but has lack of power and grip / traction and overal is an old car now! Lets move on to the new generation with better engine/ technology and driving experience... all the viewers confirmed G8x has superiority ... yes its a bit bigger and heavier maybe not as much track oriented as F8x is but seriously how much time people spend on track?

[adc]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

The most striking thing about this video, IMO, is how much better G82 looks. It has presence, it looks mean and ready to swallow the road
I loved the the F82, but next to the new car, it looks.. kind of dull.

I got exactly the opposite. G82 Bloated, boring profile, that nose.

Interesting how people can look at the same thing and see/experience it so differently.

[thaalrasha]

If power is equalized it's gonna be pretty close.... F82 is like an elegant car with a brutal behavior / feel and the G82 has the brutal design and more refined cabine and driving...

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by Takumi587

I had an F80 M3 and now an M340i. I can already imagine based on driving the M340i that the new G80 M3 will be a huge upgrade from the F80. I went from SMG to DCT and now to ZF. The ZF is amazing but I'm considering the manual transmission for G80 M3 due to the reviews saying the gear changes are more crisp. The rev matching is also a cool feature which I would assume is just as great as a Porsche Cayman GTS.

I'll be honest I don't miss the F80 M3 at all. Maybe the sound and looks but that's it. If engine stats are the same then the infotainment and interior are worth the upgrade IMO.

First of all, no offense, but you will not want to jump into conclusion as to G80 vs G20 vs F80. Each of them shines in the different area, not necessarily the area you value. Please don't imagine. Test.

I totally relate to the sentiment that you have no regrets at all going from the F80 to G20 with the B58.

The B58 is such a great or should I say mighty powerful engine from a practical standpoint. It has this almost electric car matching instant grunt at tap everywhere, or maybe a little bit lacking at top end due to turbo sizing and factory power rating. The S55 is pretty close in this regard but is slightly towards the high rev. I've been commuting, tuning and also HDPE these cars for years and can't know them better.

The S58, on the contrary, is a bit tame with its in-proportionally sized big turbo. The most, including Joe, the author of this video and an owner of the new M3, acknowledge the urgency and responsiveness of the B58 at low and middle range over the laggy S58. He even had a video showing exactly how the S58 is slower compared to the B58 in the form of X3MC vs X3 M40i via an instrument in gear acceleration test where the B58 destroy the S58 by a huge margin.

I personally did drag race and drifting course on the S58 (X3MC) and will confirm what I am stating. It's absolutely impossible to properly appreciate the new M3 without pushing it at B road, highway, or the road course. The journalist so far mostly blame the ZF8 for the sluggishness (relatively speaking), which is very incorrect. How many insanely quick and fast cars out there are using the ZF8? Guess what they have in common? A great motor.

BTW, I already posted this G82 vs F82 comparison video a few days ago (beat the OP to it) but my thread got deleted by mods maybe because I just presented bloody truth rather than gush over the baby new car like the journalists and other forum enthusiasts do. Fine, take my opinion as you will

[swagon]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

I used to have F82 for 2 years and F80 for another 2.5 years. Admit F8x is a fantastic car but has lack of power and grip / traction and overal is an old car now! Lets move on to the new generation with better engine/ technology and driving experience... all the viewers confirmed G8x has superiority ... yes its a bit bigger and heavier maybe not as much track oriented as F8x is but seriously how much time people spend on track?

So what you're saying is the E46 is like a horse carriage to you then if the F8x is an old car by now and that track capabilities don't/shouldn't matter as much anymore?

Judging by your post and this forum, you're actually kind of right with the latter. Unfortunately.

[PeregrineFalcon]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

First of all, no offense, but you're completely wrong. Please don't imagine. Test.

I totally relate to the sentiment that you have no regrets at all going from the F80 to G20 with the B58.

The B58 is such a great or should I say mighty powerful engine from a practical standpoint. It has this almost electric car matching instant grunt at tap everywhere, or maybe a little bit lacking at top end due to turbo sizing and factory power rating. The S55 is pretty close in this regard but is slightly towards the high rev. I've been commuting, tuning and also HDPE these cars for years and can't know them better.

The S58, on the contrary, is a bit tame with its in-proportionally sized big turbo. The most, including Joe, the author of this video and an owner of the new M3, acknowledge the urgency and responsiveness of the B58 at low and middle range over the laggy S58. He even had a video showing exactly how the S58 is slower compared to the B58 in the form of X3MC vs X3 M40i via an instrument in gear acceleration test where the B58 destroy the S58 by a huge margin.

I personally did drag race and drifting course on the S58 (X3MC) and will confirm what I am stating. It's absolutely impossible to properly appreciate the new M3 without pushing it at B road, highway, or the road course. The journalist so far mostly blame the ZF8 for the sluggishness (relatively speaking), which is very incorrect. How many insanely quick and fast cars out there are using the ZF8? Guess what they have in common? A great motor.

BTW, I already posted this G82 vs F82 comparison video a few days ago (beat the OP to it) but my thread got deleted by mods maybe because I just presented bloody truth rather than gush over the baby new car like the journalists and other forum enthusiasts do. Fine, take my opinion as you will

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m...tition-package

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m4-competition-coupe

Here are the measured acceleration times for the both, G82 and F82 M4.
Even in gear acceleration shows that the new car is significantly faster

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by PeregrineFalcon

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m...tition-package

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-m4-competition-coupe

Here are the measured acceleration times for the both, G82 and F82 M4.
Even in gear acceleration shows that the new car is significantly faster

Yes, G80 is fast (faster than the F80) and those times are legit, except that they're measured from full boost which in the real world scenario is not practical.

Even in the competition environment a lot of times are spent in boost buildup, for example kickdown, turn exit, hard brake and re-WOT & etc.

Just like in every other single drag race, the S58 car has always been the "underdog" and crawled its way back to win. In this particular video, apparently the S55 take advantage of the superior engine response and is able to hold up in both kickdown and high RPM rolling race, despite of a 60hp, or 13% power deficit (even bigger difference in whp). Weight difference, yes, maybe 150lbs or 4% of the car.

The slow response cost you speed (or pleasure) in about 95% of the time. Think why electric car feel insanely fast even with just 400hp? Ever experienced a 1000hp RS3 the drag champion? It has the jaw dropping performance measured, but is slow as hell anywhere outside of drag strip. Why?

[4everkidd]

Originally Posted by thaalrasha

I don't know... he is just using launch control right... ? So driver is barely involved except for reaction time letting off the brake.

I can't say for G8x, but launch control in F8x was not the most reliable .

On drag days I've never had an issue with the launch control even on repeated runs.

This was a feel good clip for me; I turned down my G80 allocation and am keeping my F80 for now.

I just can't with the G80

[AllaVodka]

I'm conflicted. I like both, because they don't even look like the same car line. The g80 doesn't look like the predecessor to the f80, it looks like something entirely different.

I feel like my opinion of the g80 changes depending on the angle i'm looking at it. Even in person.

Also, at this point why are we pretending the g80/g20 is a 3 series? Its a 5 series with a 3 series badge on it. Shits large.