[Donolotti]

I just want a manual comp M4 like I had before… why can't BMW do this??
And on the flip side what if someone wants a chill daily M3 or M4 thats auto and not comp??

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by Donolotti

I just want a manual comp M4 like I had before… why can't BMW do this??
And on the flip side what if someone wants a chill daily M3 or M4 thats auto and not comp??

To get the "comp" in 6MT will just require a software tune to up the boost and a "competition" badge. There really aren't any other differences that I'm aware of. What would have been awesome is if they'd given the 6MT a special designation. They could have chucked a few random things in there and charged a chunk more and I'm sure people still would have paid it

[Jproos]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

To get the "comp" in 6MT will just require a software tune to up the boost and a "competition" badge. There really aren't any other differences that I'm aware of. What would have been awesome is if they'd given the 6MT a special designation. They could have chucked a few random things in there and charged a chunk more and I'm sure people still would have paid it

I think you could argue they gave it the traditional and historically significant designation of M3 (or M4 which has much less history). Which is to say, the 6MT wears the unadulterated M badge.

That might be a pretty generous description of the situation but I think it's defensible.



Jason

[Donolotti]

Originally Posted by Jproos

I think you could argue they gave it the traditional and historically significant designation of M3 (or M4 which has much less history). Which is to say, the 6MT wears the unadulterated M badge.

That might be a pretty generous description of the situation but I think it's defensible.



Jason

Yeah I would go with the manual no question just want the higher performance car in manual because I am and enthusiast. Sucks that the auto people just are giving the higher performance model without really asking for it.

[trey100]

Originally Posted by Donolotti

Yeah I would go with the manual no question just want the higher performance car in manual because I am and enthusiast. Sucks that the auto people just are giving the higher performance model without really asking for it.

I don't think there will be much real world difference between the 2 except for the fact that the auto will be faster due to shorter ratios and speed of changing gears. In the initial reviews where they had both on hand, I was waiting to hear something about noticing that the 6MT is down 70 ft lb of torque in driving, but no one mentioned it. If anything they mentioned that you should get the 6MT. First couple of dynos show similar torque which shouldn't be the case at all as 70 is a big swing even in varying dynos. Worst case you'll be able to get a simple tune to get the added power.

Have they determined if there are any other differences between the comp and non-comp?

[antzcrashing]

Hard for me to say if I have changed much due to the reviews. I am a bit torn about 6MT vs auto, but leaning towards auto (and AWD) for practicality. Chances are I will test drive in both suits. If 6MT has that gotta-have-it factor, then I will

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Jproos

I think you could argue they gave it the traditional and historically significant designation of M3 (or M4 which has much less history). Which is to say, the 6MT wears the unadulterated M badge.

That might be a pretty generous description of the situation but I think it's defensible.



Jason

Not G8X related really, but I think it’s hilarious that BMW made competition pack a badge now. Maybe that’s more reflective of BMW owners rather than BMW itself tho...

[codestar]

I've been looking for some decent video reviews / instrumented tests for the 6MT but it seems that all of the publications are reviewing the Comps; it seems like BMW is intentionally limiting press reviews for the launch. The only major review I've found was a written one by R&T, are there any others worth taking a look at?

Waiting for my local dealership to get one in but all they have are Competitions right now. The only 6MT they had was bought before release date and taken off the floor right away

[nathanm4]

Originally Posted by nathanm4

I have a 6MT G82. Having driven it for over 1,200 miles, I got tired of traffic jams and constantly needing to changing gears manually. Computer does it way better and I get to keep both hands on the steering wheel when making aggressive maneuvers.

Now I prefer AT.

If I were given another chance, I would wait for Competition with Xdrive.

I'm enjoying manual again after some aggressive shifts on highways

I just had to get used to it.

The last time I had a manual was 6 years ago

[JustChris]

I might be if it were coming to the U.K.

[Donolotti]

Originally Posted by trey100

I don't think there will be much real world difference between the 2 except for the fact that the auto will be faster due to shorter ratios and speed of changing gears. In the initial reviews where they had both on hand, I was waiting to hear something about noticing that the 6MT is down 70 ft lb of torque in driving, but no one mentioned it. If anything they mentioned that you should get the 6MT. First couple of dynos show similar torque which shouldn't be the case at all as 70 is a big swing even in varying dynos. Worst case you'll be able to get a simple tune to get the added power.

Have they determined if there are any other differences between the comp and non-comp?

I want my M stripe seat beats lmao… thats a comp only thing.

[Saphirschwarz]

Originally Posted by nathanm4

I'm enjoying manual again after some aggressive shifts on highways

I just had to get used to it.

The last time I had a manual was 6 years ago

I'm happy for u, your former post was kinda sad

[IcebergM4]

Originally Posted by Donolotti

I want my M stripe seat beats lmao… thats a comp only thing.

IND should have those belts available for sale in no time

[filostrato]

I'll be taking delivery of a BG M3 in the next week (hopefully)
A little nervous going from a Cayman S to the G80 6MT as some people describe a "rubbery" feel to the shifter... but really I'm just excited this car exists!

Three pedals and four doors? Sold

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by filostrato

I'll be taking delivery of a BG M3 in the next week (hopefully)
A little nervous going from a Cayman S to the G80 6MT as some people describe a "rubbery" feel to the shifter... but really I'm just excited this car exists!

Three pedals and four doors? Sold

I'm loving my BGM 6MT. Definitely getting used to driving a manual again, but really enjoying it. It's a decent enough shift, not amazing, longer throw than I expected, but tons of fun.

I've found it's made me a more relaxed driver, I don't want to sit on someone's ass and be constantly shifting, but the benefit of all the power is that as soon as there's a gap or you want to create space you can hit it and you are just gone, straight away. Power is put down beautifully and the steering is amazing.

You'll love it

[kingmonkeyjr]

My 3 pedal Brooklyn is almost here

[Jproos]

I didn't expect quite so many to say they were more interested in the 6MT after the reviews. I thought some would be but 2x as many people have said they're more interested now then said they aren't more interested in the 6MT now.

I wonder how many will actually change what they order vs. what they planned to order.

[trojane92]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

I'm loving my BGM 6MT. Definitely getting used to driving a manual again, but really enjoying it. It's a decent enough shift, not amazing, longer throw than I expected, but tons of fun.

I've found it's made me a more relaxed driver, I don't want to sit on someone's ass and be constantly shifting, but the benefit of all the power is that as soon as there's a gap or you want to create space you can hit it and you are just gone, straight away. Power is put down beautifully and the steering is amazing.

You'll love it

Notice any turbo lag in low rpm say when you're shifting from 2nd to 3rd in low speed? I'm not expecting none, but I wonder how it compares to the f80 6mt?

[Wheelwright]

What if you short-shift to 2nd gear at 30km/h (20miles), and then floor it all the way to 100km/h. Is the acceleration brutal ?
I ask because I skip the first gear often in my M235i to get that smooth airplane take-off feeling, with the power seamlessly building-up to push me in the seat.

[LuvMyE92]

Originally Posted by Bahamut

Speaking of, looks like another 6MT review is up!

Thanks for that. I immediately blanched at the "Bro's Four Speed" name, but I stuck with it since he's a local homeboy (NC). Really, he did a good job. I hate amateur "reviewers" with the handheld phone zipping around making me nauseous, the unscripted rambling about unimportant crap and of course, constant self-promotion. He did a great job pointing out a lot of details and reviewing the car. The photography was excellent, the editing spot-on and really I was pleasantly surprised.

Originally Posted by d001

The 6MT is not up to par with the rest of the car. .... Nowhere near cayman, current miata, 1LE camaro.... it shows BMW has spend little to no money to improve it. Just my experience, I welcome questions.

Well, BMW has never, never ever come even close to the Porsche 6-speed or Miata boxes, and they never will. Rubbery, notchy, long throw, have always been a BMW trademark. Yes, they probably haven't spent much money to improve it, because they think it's just fine. German logic, right? Those of us who were fortunate enough to drive E28s and E34 and E36 when they were new, know what a proper BMW gearbox used to feel like. But millions of dollars of warranty claims on destroyed synchros and burned up clutches have now gotten us to where we are now with the notchiness, the CDV and reduced power (at least, there was in my OG M2) at WOT on upshifts. Annoying.

Originally Posted by Jproos

I didn't expect quite so many to say they were more interested in the 6MT after the reviews. I thought some would be but 2x as many people have said they're more interested now then said they aren't more interested in the 6MT now.

My opinion didn't change after reading/viewing reviews, because I knew from the get-go that I wanted a three pedal car.

This morning driving into work, I decided that I would wait for a 2022 to get my M4. Then I finished reading this thread and watched the review and now I want one now, today, this afternoon, dang it!

But I'll try to be a grown-up and wait and order what I want instead of jumping on the first available car I see.

[akkando]

Originally Posted by Donolotti

Yeah I would go with the manual no question just want the higher performance car in manual because I am and enthusiast. Sucks that the auto people just are giving the higher performance model without really asking for it.

Just buy a badge and a jb4.

[Multimodal]

The ZF8 is a great automatic. But I have it in my X5 50i. It's great I can paddle shift and get lightning fast shifts but I want an M3 to be different from an X5.

That said, after reading this thread and the idiosyncrasies of the DCT, I am not surprised they eliminated it in favor of the ZF8.