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      12-19-2019, 04:12 PM   #2003
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Don't be a wise ass.. you know I'm comparing the wheel in the G80 to the wheel in the F80... this new wheel is dogshit
The F80 wheel is nice for a BMW, but if there's one thing Audi does better it's cool-looking steering wheels. BMW has always had fairly ugly steering wheels and shift knobs and I personally like it. They're well padded and grippy, perfect for driving.

BMW has always been about maintaining a very German professional looking interior. They don't use crazy design elements or flat bottom super sculpted steering wheels. BMWs have always had an understated look about their interiors. Mercedes went off the deep end and are trying way too hard. Audi interiors look nice but they still dont' drive quite as well.
I agree, my mothers Q5 has a better looking wheel than the G80... I also agree with BMW wheels being all business, that's why I made a change
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Ayyyyy standard seats getting the thigh extender thingy back
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Ayyyyy standard seats getting the thigh extender thingy back
Same seat as M8 and X3/4M
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Does anybody else here see that the steering wheel in the MT car appears to have paddle shifters?

The wheel in the picture below has the new style M1/M2 paddles (with black tape over them), but there also seems to be a large plastic gear-change paddle behind the wheel.

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steering looks like it has a paddle shifter with the 6 MT...
It's because it's pre-production and they probably took it straight from a M340. I'd assume it'll be fixed once the production comes around.

As others have echoed the steering wheel is lackluster and the center console is too busy with buttons but that's the least of our worries compared to the outside!

How much you want to bet you can't go those amazing seats with the MT?
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Maybe a new shift knob wouldn't hurt
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It's because it's pre-production and they probably took it straight from a M340. I'd assume it'll be fixed once the production comes around.

As others have echoed the steering wheel is lackluster and the center console is too busy with buttons but that's the least of our worries compared to the outside!

How much you want to bet you can't go those amazing seats with the MT?
I'll take that bet. If it's available in the U.S., it'll be available with either model.
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It's because it's pre-production and they probably took it straight from a M340. I'd assume it'll be fixed once the production comes around.

As others have echoed the steering wheel is lackluster and the center console is too busy with buttons but that's the least of our worries compared to the outside!

How much you want to bet you can't go those amazing seats with the MT?
Im here to defend the new M steering wheel. Looks very similar to the ones in all the M packs and M Performance models.

It feels WAY WAY better than the one in my M2. Perfect thiccness, and overall diameter. I would definitely take the new gen wheel. .02
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Im here to defend the new M steering wheel. Looks very similar to the ones in all the M packs and M Performance models.

It feels WAY WAY better than the one in my M2. Perfect thiccness, and overall diameter. I would definitely take the new gen wheel. .02
Which new steering wheel are you defending? R u telling us uve test driven the final production G80 or u just referring to the current line of M steering wheels? Suspicions have it that the G80/82 steering wheel may be diff than what we're currently seeing ... possibly, and hopefully, cause they stink IMO.
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Maybe a new shift knob wouldn't hurt
Agreed. It's been the same for years. Why not make it a little more special as a treat to the enthusiasts. Especially considering it may possibly be the last M3 available with a stick.
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It's because it's pre-production and they probably took it straight from a M340. I'd assume it'll be fixed once the production comes around.

As others have echoed the steering wheel is lackluster and the center console is too busy with buttons but that's the least of our worries compared to the outside!

How much you want to bet you can't go those amazing seats with the MT?
Im here to defend the new M steering wheel. Looks very similar to the ones in all the M packs and M Performance models.

It feels WAY WAY better than the one in my M2. Perfect thiccness, and overall diameter. I would definitely take the new gen wheel. .02
I don't mind the thickness, more so the appearance/aesthetic for me. I don't like the airbag shape on the wheel. The leather on it is nice though. It just looks off to me.

I also think it's a bit too busy as far as buttons are concerned. It's hard to discern them IMO and there's just too many now. That's more of a problem of our time than anything else.
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Which new steering wheel are you defending? R u telling us uve test driven the final production G80 or u just referring to the current line of M steering wheels? Suspicions have it that the G80/82 steering wheel may be diff than what we're currently seeing ... possibly, and hopefully, cause they stink IMO.
Nope I have not held the new G80 wheel. But from what I have seen, looks like 90% the M-Sport wheel. Slightly more chunky.
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I think enthusiasts would be more bothered if they changed the shift knob. Would you be happier with LED lights and carbon fiber all over the place?

That has absolutely nothing to do with my gripe. It's an old shift knob plain and simple and pretty sure most "enthusiasts" wouldn't mind a different maybe even more sportier shift knob. What the hell does LED and carbon fiber being everywhere having anything to do with what I said?
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Seats look great.

Am I the only one who thinks that the center console, surrounding the iDrive controller looks overly busy in the modern BMWs?

I liked the E9x LCI update to the iDrive and limited number of surrounding buttons. Very simple and stylish.

Now it just looks like a soundboard or laptop computer keyboard. Very unappealing IMO. Kind of reminds me of the dashboard of the old AMGs with the useless full telephone keys.
Looks more "Kiaesque"
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thats been the rumor for like a year? or more
Right, a weird rumor, nothing more. BMW doesn't want to alienate customers and is in the business of making money, there's no way that rumor is coming to fruition.
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It's because it's pre-production and they probably took it straight from a M340. I'd assume it'll be fixed once the production comes around.

As others have echoed the steering wheel is lackluster and the center console is too busy with buttons but that's the least of our worries compared to the outside!

How much you want to bet you can't go those amazing seats with the MT?
Im here to defend the new M steering wheel. Looks very similar to the ones in all the M packs and M Performance models.

It feels WAY WAY better than the one in my M2. Perfect thiccness, and overall diameter. I would definitely take the new gen wheel. .02
I agree with this, it feels very nice. However, I also hate the way it looks. It's my least favorite part of my M5 interior (visually).

And I bet the g80 gets the same one.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with my gripe. It's an old shift knob plain and simple and pretty sure most "enthusiasts" wouldn't mind a different maybe even more sportier shift knob. What the hell does LED and carbon fiber being everywhere having anything to do with what I said?
The ZHP shift knob is a BMW enthusiast's favorite. BMW was using the long version of this shift knob since as far back as I can remember and just changed out to this one this past generation. The ZHP knob is just a bit shorter, weighted, and has slightly cleaner stitches. It's almost a trademark of manual transmission BMWs at this point. Why mess with something so classic? If you want something flashy, just look up the M Performance catalog or buy an aftermarket shift knob. With the slow death of manuals, it's nice to have that one iconic piece in a BMW stay relatively constant.
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I don't really care what the shift knob looks like (the old one is fine and inoffensive) I'm just glad manual is still being offered.
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I don't really care what the shift knob looks like (the old one is fine and inoffensive) I'm just glad manual is still being offered.
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