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Mercedes | 56 | 9.82% | |
Porsche | 267 | 46.84% | |
Audi | 42 | 7.37% | |
Tesla | 40 | 7.02% | |
Chevrolet Corvette C8 | 53 | 9.30% | |
Other | 91 | 15.96% | |
A different BMW | 21 | 3.68% | |
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10-26-2020, 10:59 AM | #442 | |
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$200k out of the door, more than I want to pay for a street car and WAY more $$$ than I want to track. Fantastic car though I’m sure, I haven’t driven the turbo. You know it’s AWD, right? You spend quite a lot of time hating on AWD here so it’s surprising to hear.
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Band-aid solution is to greenify the best selling AMG model, very sad to see. If they call it the C45 I think there'd be more acceptance... Next Audi RS4/5 will be a PHEV too, but logically I'd guess it would be the 2.9TT hybrid powertrain pushing 550hp from the facelift Panamera. So funny enough despite the outcry, BMW will laugh to the bank with the enthusiast dollars this gen
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I love P cars. I've been able to afford nearly all P cars on the date I signed my last 2 F80 leases, and still went with the F80 on both ocassions. Idk why. I just love the M3. I do track my cars (not to the extent you do). I do love a Porsche manual transmission. The styling on the lower 911's doesn't appeal to me and the GT and Turbo cars seem like horrible daily drivers for someone with a toddler. I also put 20k+ miles on my cars each year and that is way too much for such a special and rare care as a GT3, Turbo S, etc.
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With 10k miles/year, I do less than you, albeit a fair bit of it is on track . These cars are meant to be driven
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I also abhor car ownership. I lease. I will never own a car until they outlaw the production of ICE and I have to buy one to stay in the game. People disagree with me, but that's my preference.
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My own experience with P-cars is that everything is twice the cost vs a comparable BMW. The 992 Turbo is twice the car of any BMW, so my guess, 4x the cost... |
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But I also know that tracking an G8X will also be more expensive than an F8X, that extra power and weight will be shredding tires and brakes.
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It will be interesting to see how many will accept it and learn to enjoy the added TQ, traction and resulting speed and how many will continue run old cars from here on. |
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This is the only hope for bmw and m to stay relevant. The G80 is bigger than the E39 M5 is nearly every way, and in AWD configs surely will weigh more. Which is fine if you want an M 5er size car. But it wasnt necessary but a choice made by bmw for reasons still hard to understand. But lets hope the next M2 bridges back to the old M3s when they made the M what it is today.
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1) it stays new for like 2-3 years tops. .2 or new gen comes every 3 years and that's not counting you wait 3-5 month for delivery even though order it at car launch. 2) huge depreciation. In my market, for a 3 year period of ownership, the TCO easily approaches Ferrari 488/F8 territory, given value retention. 911 is great but as much as I hate it, all of those always lead to value topic. I myself is in a huge debate on G8X or 992, things just don't make sense as you keep looking and speccing up.
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When I purchased my 2018 M3 comp I leased it with the idea of a buyout. I kept the car pristine, low miles, PPF etc. At that point, I had already seen some of the leaks of the G8x, and I was not too interested in BMW's design language. Right now, I have a deposit and order down for an M2 CS which for my driving is going to be the preferable car. Rarer than the M3, shorter wheel base, and slightly less weight.
On the other hand, you have the G8x which has controversial looks, weighs a significant amount more (like BMW stopped trying amount), appears to have less tuning opportunities if the new ECUs are actually used anywhere in the generation (I hear off launch). To me, the G8x is more of a grand touring car at this point. Great highway driver, awesome 0-60 and 1/4 miles for those drag racers out there. I'm looking for a purer driver experience and I'm willing to give up some "cool/flex" points for that with an M2 CS. For me, it's going through with that or keeping my car after the lease ends next summer. That said, I'm not one to judge other individuals purchases, so for those who are interested in the G8x, I hope you enjoy it in good health.
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