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      12-18-2020, 01:58 PM   #67
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Why does it matter if BMW is watching? If you tune the car, your Warranty is fucked anyway. It's the issue of being able to break the ECU. Someone will figure it out. Hopefully sooner than later
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Why does it matter if BMW is watching? If you tune the car, your Warranty is fucked anyway. It's the issue of being able to break the ECU. Someone will figure it out. Hopefully sooner than later
The M3 is one of the most tuned German cars ever. Too much $$ is riding on someone figuring it out I'm sure it will happen. Better be soon so I can get add a Nissan GTR to my kill list 😈
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      12-19-2020, 08:58 AM   #69
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The M3 is one of the most tuned German cars ever. Too much $$ is riding on someone figuring it out I'm sure it will happen. Better be soon so I can get add a Nissan GTR to my kill list 😈
HA HA. Better find a stock or lightly modded one
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      12-19-2020, 12:27 PM   #70
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The M3 is one of the most tuned German cars ever. Too much $$ is riding on someone figuring it out I'm sure it will happen. Better be soon so I can get add a Nissan GTR to my kill list 😈
HA HA. Better find a stock or lightly modded one
How much hp/torque u running?
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      12-19-2020, 01:11 PM   #71
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The M3 is one of the most tuned German cars ever. Too much $$ is riding on someone figuring it out I'm sure it will happen. Better be soon so I can get add a Nissan GTR to my kill list 😈
Hopefully you won’t run into a BUILT one, or one with turbo upgrades for that matter.
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      12-19-2020, 01:12 PM   #72
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How much hp/torque u running?
On E-85 Kill map, right around 950 Tq. I'm happy right there. I don't want a 1500 HP laggy car. Plus, shit seems to break when you start going in the higher numbers. My car has been rock solid, knock on wood. Sean Ivey is a bad MF. LOL.
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How much hp/torque u running?
On E-85 Kill map, right around 950 Tq. I'm happy right there. I don't want a 1500 HP laggy car. Plus, shit seems to break when you start going in the higher numbers. My car has been rock solid, knock on wood. Sean Ivey is a bad MF. LOL.
Nice. You'd smoke almost everything right now. On the G80 I plan on going straight to a full build w forged internals, turbos, meth, e85, PI, etc. Hoping to make 900whp.
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The M3 is one of the most tuned German cars ever. Too much $$ is riding on someone figuring it out I'm sure it will happen. Better be soon so I can get add a Nissan GTR to my kill list 😈
Hopefully you won’t run into a BUILT one, or one with turbo upgrades for that matter.
I know I was jk. I'm going to stay away from 720's, TT Huracans, and GTRs. The rest are all very very fair game w a BUILT AWD G80.
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Nice. You'd smoke almost everything right now. On the G80 I plan on going straight to a full build w forged internals, turbos, meth, e85, PI, etc. Hoping to make 900whp.
Wondering how the Tranny will hold up? Hopefully it can handle a shit to of Torque.
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      12-20-2020, 09:44 AM   #76
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Nice. You'd smoke almost everything right now. On the G80 I plan on going straight to a full build w forged internals, turbos, meth, e85, PI, etc. Hoping to make 900whp.
Wondering how the Tranny will hold up? Hopefully it can handle a shit to of Torque.
I think it'll hold up well considering the F90 has the same tranny w 1000hp builds handling it. Might need to upgrade axels
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I think it'll hold up well considering the F90 has the same tranny w 1000hp builds handling it. Might need to upgrade axels
That would be a nice cost saving for sure!!
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the “manual-gear-box-rear-wheel-drive-light-weight-road-course” hypocritical enthusiasts are seemingly everywhere these days. Why would you even consider buying a four door BMW street car for road course use is beyond my comprehension. Why don’t you just buy a cheap Miata and rebuild to a race car? Or get a GT4? Or buy a GT3, if you can afford one?
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Another example of what BMW can achieve with these big girls. It makes me even more impatient to see what the G8X can do...

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/12/20/v...n-991-911-gt3/

It also adds to the mystery why the G8X isn’t given to proper journalists
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the “manual-gear-box-rear-wheel-drive-light-weight-road-course” hypocritical enthusiasts are seemingly everywhere these days. Why would you even consider buying a four door BMW street car for road course use is beyond my comprehension. Why don’t you just buy a cheap Miata and rebuild to a race car? Or get a GT4? Or buy a GT3, if you can afford one?
Say what ? Hypocritical ?

Maybe some of us enthusiasts have adhered to the original design intent of the M3 as a dual use car: a practical daily driver than can serve the track hobby. It is that concept that got me into my first E46 M3 in 2001 and why I kept coming back. I love having one car that does it all.
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Another example of what BMW can achieve with these big girls. It makes me even more impatient to see what the G8X can do...

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/12/20/v...n-991-911-gt3/

It also adds to the mystery why the G8X isn’t given to proper journalists
I am curious where they got that GT3 reference lap time (fastest laps is not the most reliable source)...

However, beating the M5competition by whopping 1.5 seconds, the M5cs did fair much better in this test than in the AM&S one. The M5 is definitely a fast machine.
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Here are some other lap times for comparison.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/eurospeedway-lausitz
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the "manual-gear-box-rear-wheel-drive-light-weight-road-course" hypocritical enthusiasts are seemingly everywhere these days. Why would you even consider buying a four door BMW street car for road course use is beyond my comprehension. Why don't you just buy a cheap Miata and rebuild to a race car? Or get a GT4? Or buy a GT3, if you can afford one?
It makes sense for some people to have a dedicated track car and another "normal" daily car, but in other cases people don't have the space to keep both cars or like others said they prefer one car that does it all.

After the G80 I'm thinking I'll be able to own a street legal track car (ex. exocet) and a sporty daily sedan. As my kids grow up I'm hoping I'll have more time to maintain a track car and enjoy a new hobby.
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It makes sense for some people to have a dedicated track car and another "normal" daily car, but in other cases people don't have the space to keep both cars or like others said they prefer one car that does it all.

After the G80 I'm thinking I'll be able to own a street legal track car (ex. exocet) and a sporty daily sedan. As my kids grow up I'm hoping I'll have more time to maintain a track car and enjoy a new hobby.
For the “one car that does it all” folks, do they at least track prep their street car before taking it to the track? Sounds like a stupid, expensive, and an extremely irresponsible endeavor.
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For the “one car that does it all” folks, do they at least track prep their street car before taking it to the track? Sounds like a stupid, expensive, and an extremely irresponsible endeavor.
The extent of track prepping depends on your driving skill level and budget. Track pads and fresh Castrol SRF are enough to begin with and these aren’t costly. As you get faster, you’ll want dedicated track wheels, stickier tires, camber plates, suspension upgrades etc. I don’t think any of these are super expensive. Consumables like pads and tires are part of the game. The others are a one-time thing.

Stupid and irresponsible - It’s the driver that needs a mod/prep for this one, not the car, usually. If you drive like a hooligan on track (regardless of how much your car is prepped or not), you’ll be warned and then kicked out. Everyone takes safety very seriously.
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For the “one car that does it all” folks, do they at least track prep their street car before taking it to the track? Sounds like a stupid, expensive, and an extremely irresponsible endeavor.
You should inform yourself before making "stupid" affirmations and throwing insults .

I've been tracking my ///Ms for 20 years now at the rate of 16~25 days per season. The M3/4 have come fairly track ready out of the box, only needing proper track pads, r-comp tires and camber plates (the latter two mainly to reduce cost of consumables). I've been taking cars to the track for over 30 years now. The first decade racing (yes, as in competitively) modified track prepped cars, but still street legal. I'd come tired of the cost and unreliability of modded cars. Now having other life responsibilities, I no longer have the time nor the patience for that. I really love the reliability and peace of mind that comes with a fully warrantied track car. Plus I get to enjoy it everyday on my daily drive
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You should inform yourself before making "stupid" affirmations and throwing insults .

I've been tracking my ///Ms for 20 years now at the rate of 16~25 days per season. The M3/4 have come fairly track ready out of the box, only needing proper track pads, r-comp tires and camber plates (the latter two mainly to reduce cost of consumables). I've been taking cars to the track for over 30 years now. The first decade racing (yes, as in competitively) modified track prepped cars, but still street legal. I'd come tired of the cost and unreliability of modded cars. Now having other life responsibilities, I no longer have the time nor the patience for that. I really love the reliability and peace of mind that comes with a fully warrantied track car. Plus I get to enjoy it everyday on my daily drive
sorry, I didn’t articulate it well. What I meant to say is that it would be a stupid and an irresponsible endeavor to track your street car without proper track prepping.
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sorry, I didn’t articulate it well. What I meant to say is that it would be a stupid and an irresponsible endeavor to track your street car without proper track prepping.
As I said, M3/4 need very little "track prepping". A newbe can definitely take a completely stock M3/4 to the track a get along fine. I'd say brake pads is the only real must after that.
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