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      11-27-2021, 03:11 PM   #1
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Winter setup installed

I'm here in NYC and weather is breaking fast! Research states once weather drops below 45 degrees it's time to swap out the performance tire

Vredestein Tires 275/30/20 all around
With MSW TYPE 50 rims (was all I can find due to waiting too long, I ordered these 2nd week of October) just mounted them today and I must say I am pleasantly surprised, I love the setup
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      11-27-2021, 03:37 PM   #2
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Nice man!

I found some 19x9.5 +20 on ebay that i wanna throw winters on, do you think that would work? 19x9.5 on all 4's?
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Nice man!

I found some 19x9.5 +20 on ebay that i wanna throw winters on, do you think that would work? 19x9.5 on all 4's?
Should work

Won't lie I thought 20s would be a bit much
Just drove 70 miles today, and the ride was amazing and balanced

Remember I'm coming from the traditional 19s front and 20s in rear

The 20s all around is a great balanced ride
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      11-27-2021, 04:28 PM   #4
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I'm on LI, picking up my m4c Monday. Which dealership did you go through?
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      11-27-2021, 05:06 PM   #5
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I'm on LI, picking up my m4c Monday. Which dealership did you go through?
Ordered in March
Pick up was memorial days weekend
BMW Catonsville (Maryland)
Used a broker
Got 5k off sticker March 2021 right before the price of cars started to sky rocket
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      11-27-2021, 09:20 PM   #6
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Those MSWs look great! I'd proudly run around on those all winter .. check that, all year round.
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Bold of you to go bigger and wider for winter, looks beautiful!

I decided against a smaller, narrower, square setup after many years of doing it because I was tired of my car looking uglier (and the squishy ride).
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      11-27-2021, 11:03 PM   #8
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I'm from California but moving to a new city with actual winter. Is it necessary to get winter tires? No snow where I'm going but it does drop below 45
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I'm from California but moving to a new city with actual winter. Is it necessary to get winter tires? No snow where I'm going but it does drop below 45
You might seriously consider high-performance all-season tires. The rubber compound on our summer tires turns to stone in colder temperatures, so their braking and handling performance suffers. Not so badly that they're underivable or treacherous, but do take it easy.

Top-tier winter tires' compounds remain soft in cold, even extremely cold, temperatures -- in addition to a specialized tread pattern (lots of grooves, thousands of sipes to cut through snow and wick away water).

All-seasons are the halfway house of tires: their compounds work fine in all temperatures, and they have enough grooves to wick away water. So if you're moving to somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, they'd be a great compromise.
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Those MSWs look great! I'd proudly run around on those all winter .. check that, all year round.
Definitely better than I expected, considering I ordered so late I'm definitely happy with the look
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      11-28-2021, 09:29 AM   #11
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OP, what was your out the door price for the set? It looks great. I'm considering ordering up a set, and trying to get a handle on numbers. My dealer can get me the m589 set, but they're about 10% above what shopbmwusa used to list the set for (currently not listed). Thanks!
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Looks great! Been waiting to see them as I have the exact same setup sitting in my garage that’s been waiting for my TBII M4Cx to put them on. Should have it this week. My OTD price for the setup was $2600.
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      11-28-2021, 10:33 AM   #13
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I'm from California but moving to a new city with actual winter. Is it necessary to get winter tires? No snow where I'm going but it does drop below 45
Is the car a daily? If so, i would recommend at least all seasons. If you have a secondary car, there's no need. All depends on how you use the car.
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Should work

Won't lie I thought 20s would be a bit much
Just drove 70 miles today, and the ride was amazing and balanced

Remember I'm coming from the traditional 19s front and 20s in rear

The 20s all around is a great balanced ride

Probably too late to get a winter setup going for me. Next winter i'll hook up the M3 lol.

The seller on ebay said it'll take 3-4 weeks to manufacture the wheels since +20
are custom offsets. Since they do any offsets. And the size tires i want to put on those wheels are backordered until 1-2-22 lol.

I'll use my SUV for the harsher wintry conditions. M3 comes out when the roads are plowed and dry
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      11-28-2021, 04:04 PM   #15
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OP, what was your out the door price for the set? It looks great. I'm considering ordering up a set, and trying to get a handle on numbers. My dealer can get me the m589 set, but they're about 10% above what shopbmwusa used to list the set for (currently not listed). Thanks!
Correct $2600 total for the setup
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      11-28-2021, 06:37 PM   #16
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Correct $2600 total for the setup
Sweet. Where did you get them from?
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I might be wrong, but my understanding is that going with winter tires that wide is not a good thing for snow. Even though you have winter tires, since they are so wide, it's not going to yield great results in the snow. Winter tires are usually more narrow for better traction.
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I might be wrong, but my understanding is that going with winter tires that wide is not a good thing for snow. Even though you have winter tires, since they are so wide, it's not going to yield great results in the snow. Winter tires are usually more narrow for better traction.
Of course, there would be better bite with 4 winter doughnuts, but that's not realistic. I've had winter tires on several e46 m3s over the years, and even at stock sizes, it performed just fine.
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I might be wrong, but my understanding is that going with winter tires that wide is not a good thing for snow. Even though you have winter tires, since they are so wide, it's not going to yield great results in the snow. Winter tires are usually more narrow for better traction.
You are correct regarding the narrow the better
However wide still works
And also you must consider the g80 is so new there's not much options rim wise etc
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      11-30-2021, 09:46 PM   #20
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I bought the oem winter setup and they come with 275/35/19. It does sound a bit wide, but BMW engineers must know something I don't. I'll take their word on it .
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      11-30-2021, 11:22 PM   #21
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I just put my tires on my stock wheels today as well. Same sizes as stock, same brand, but I'm kind of rubbing if I hit a dip or if I have a passenger… I'm on KW with 12mm all around. Wondering if I should remove the spacers or adjust the KW.
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      12-01-2021, 12:11 PM   #22
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I just put my tires on my stock wheels today as well. Same sizes as stock, same brand, but I'm kind of rubbing if I hit a dip or if I have a passenger… I'm on KW with 12mm all around. Wondering if I should remove the spacers or adjust the KW.
I still have my wheels spacers on my winter setup

15mm Rear and 12mm front
No rubbing at all

I have 275/30/20 tires all around
Msw type 50 (20") which has an offset of 22
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