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Picture of the 6MT as none were shown in the original press packet.
Note that the iDrive controller moves rearward to make room for the shift boot. Therefore 6MT cars won't have the silly "M3" logo sitting on the center console where the iDrive controller will live.
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Worth noting that the E46 is only 4.5 inches longer than the E21. 23 year gap.
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Cant find it in this press release, any info on the driveshaft? Is it back to CFRP or is it steel like the F8x cars got mid-2018 onwards?
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Going through the press release, it's pretty clear they made very little effort to reduce weight on this gen. The only element they kept is the CF roof and I am guessing they did only because it shows. So no, no CFRP driveshaft because you can't show it off.
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Yes, I was one of them. 3800 for the RWD car and 4000+ for the AWD car (which may be more like 4100-4200). Kind of a downer in that regard being so heavy. I’m hoping they’ve done a good job on suspension - particularly the way it handles uneven pavement.
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They are 100% targeting the chinese with this shite. BMW had a press release a few months back saying that Europe was no longer BMW's core market, and that they were adjusting their design philosophy because their largest market (china) likes their cars a certain way.
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Some of the design decisions behind this car make you scratch your head.
1) lower TQ on manual model 2) lowest revving engine for an M3 3) heaviest M3 ever 4) ZF auto similar to the other models 5) power levels on par with the last gen C63 6) Significantly Over stylized From a cost savings standpoint, this car seems to be a win... from an enthusiast perspective, it makes you wonder who this car was designed for. I won't question anything related to this car until I see the actual performance... it may be extremely good but is performance everything? If so... then the electric cars are overtaking. |
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Not that I have seen. Only the one with every M Perf part that makes it impossible to tell how the car looks in that color.
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As far as I know, only the F8X managed to be lighter than the top-tier base series it was derived from due to significant weight reduction initiatives.
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According to BMW USA website, the weight is now 3876 lb. I'm not sure if the quoted 3,849 lb. figure also originated from the same source, but they did add the 48V system to the 2021 model so that could explain the weight gain.
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Reading the comments on the you tube videos there might be 1 positive per 10 comments (maybe 1 per 20), how did BMW not do their market research on the grill? Imagine how popular the M3 would be if they left the standard grill (or version of it) on. As many others have said, not going to spend $90,000 on a car that I have to "get used to". Never once had that doubt with previous BMW purchases. Guess my options are another X3M, underpowered RS5 sportback, mercedes C class AMG, Velar SV Auto... and upcoming Maserati Grecale SUV (if it gets V8 version), which are all looking more attractive
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I'd like to have AWD for better launching and power to the ground even though RWD is hands down more fun. Have we heard if it'll have the M xDrive like the M5? If so it's the best of both worlds.
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