[FISH22]

Originally Posted by Seedster2

Crazy price for an exhaust. At that price point, I would just get the Akrapovic titanium catback.

I'm assuming majority buying this exhaust are going for the design and limited numbers of cars that will wear it (that's why I did it). It's different and cool. Also, the MPE is titanium, rear section and tips.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Nkr15

Could you please share that with me when you get a response. Curious as well. Also would be nice to know if I am being ripped off in the Bay Area compared to AZ.

SA finally got back to me (she was out of office since Friday). Got the following quote:

Labor$455.00
Parts: $8,180.00
Shop supplies: $39.95
Taxes: $641.15

Total: $9,316.10

[Topcarbon]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

SA finally got back to me (she was out of office since Friday). Got the following quote:

Labor$455.00
Parts: $8,180.00
Shop supplies: $39.95
Taxes: $641.15

Total: $9,316.10

So, compare this to akrapovic
Which do you choose

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

SA finally got back to me (she was out of office since Friday). Got the following quote:

Labor$455.00
Parts: $8,180.00
Shop supplies: $39.95
Taxes: $641.15

Total: $9,316.10

What if you buy the exhaust from somewhere else that has a much better discount and bring it to them?

I will say, I'm sure there is some value in having the dealer install for warranty purposes. The MPE's over the last couple generations have been notorious for developing cracks and rattles. We'll see how the G8x version pans out.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Topcarbon

So, compare this to akrapovic
Which do you choose

Honestly not sure. I think they both add just that little bit extra without out going crazy (except for the price tag!). Akra keeps the looks to the standard quad style which I like but I also like that the MPE is different and doesn't stick to the usual which just further runs with how different this gen is. All things being equal though I think I'd go MPE for the OEM factor.

Originally Posted by FISH22

What if you buy the exhaust from somewhere else that has a much better discount and bring it to them?

I will say, I'm sure there is some value in having the dealer install for warranty purposes. The MPE's over the last couple generations have been notorious for developing cracks and rattles. We'll see how the G8x version pans out.

I'm sure I could definitely bring it to them for install only but how would that impact over all warranty? Would it just be a warranty on the labor or would I get a warranty on the parts since it is OEM after all?

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Honestly not sure. I think they both add just that little bit extra without out going crazy (except for the price tag!). Akra keeps the looks to the standard quad style which I like but I also like that the MPE is different and doesn't stick to the usual which just further runs with how different this gen is. All things being equal though I think I'd go MPE for the OEM factor.

I'm sure I could definitely bring it to them for install only but how would that impact over all warranty? Would it just be a warranty on the labor or would I get a warranty on the parts since it is OEM after all?

Yeah I'm just referring to the warranty on the titanium box. It's a fragile metal when it comes to vibrations, believe it or not. I would think the dealer would have no questions down the road on replacement if they installed it. I recall the last F8x MPE developing rattles (titanium cracking), and it seemed all of those were replaced by dealers.

That's a potential risk I run doing it myself.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by FISH22

Yeah I'm just referring to the warranty on the titanium box. It's a fragile metal when it comes to vibrations, believe it or not. I would think the dealer would have no questions down the road on replacement if they installed it. I recall the last F8x MPE developing rattles (titanium cracking), and it seemed all of those were replaced by dealers.

That's a potential risk I run doing it myself.

Got the local dealership down to just over $8k with install.

Labor $455.00
Parts $7,223.76
Shop supplies $39.95
Taxes $566.57
Total: $8,285.28

[Nkr15]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Got the local dealership down to just over $8k with install.

Labor $455.00
Parts $7,223.76
Shop supplies $39.95
Taxes $566.57
Total: $8,285.28

Man still so expensive 😂

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Nkr15

Man still so expensive 😂

I know…I emailed them back one last time asking if they'd either go down to $8k or if they won't and I bring the parts will they stick to the labor and shop fees already quoted. I can play the waiting game to see if the price for the exhaust goes down a bit.

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Got the local dealership down to just over $8k with install.

Labor $455.00
Parts $7,223.76
Shop supplies $39.95
Taxes $566.57
Total: $8,285.28

I think that's a great price for being installed.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by FISH22

I think that's a great price for being installed.

Are you installing yours this weekend?

[iviegatron]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

I know...I emailed them back one last time asking if they'd either go down to $8k or if they won't and I bring the parts will they stick to the labor and shop fees already quoted. I can play the waiting game to see if the price for the exhaust goes down a bit.

What's your intent by replacing the exhaust, are you primarily going for looks or sound? Is one important over the other?

[FISH22]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Are you installing yours this weekend?

That's the plan! Hopefully starting later today or tomorrow.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by iviegatron

What's your intent by replacing the exhaust, are you primarily going for looks or sound? Is one important over the other?

I want a bit more sound but don't want anything aggressive as I live in a very quiet neighborhood and leave the house before 7am every morning during the week. Add in a valve controller for this system to open the valves all the way and I think it will be a great addition.

I'd love to have the Remus system but I don't think my wife or neighbors will be too please about that one.

I like the fact that the M perf adds that and is OEM.

Looks wise, I've grown to like the M perf looks and think it goes right along with the aggressive styling of this gen and all the other M perf parts I've added.

[iviegatron]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

I want a bit more sound but don't want anything aggressive as I live in a very quiet neighborhood and leave the house before 7am every morning during the week. Add in a valve controller for this system to open the valves all the way and I think it will be a great addition.

I'd love to have the Remus system but I don't think my wife or neighbors will be too please about that one.

I like the fact that the M perf adds that and is OEM.

Looks wise, I've grown to like the M perf looks and think it goes right along with the aggressive styling of this gen and all the other M perf parts I've added.

In terms of sound, you can get the same gains by installing a valve controller on the stock exhaust for couple of hundreds. You have probably noticed from the videos the M Perf exhaust doesn't sound much different than stock. $8k is a bit much for very little gains.

If you're going for looks then I get it. Just remember, if you ever wan't to revert back to stock you'll have to buy a new bumper and get it painted. I'm still trying to get used to the look of the exhaust.

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by iviegatron

In terms of sound, you can get the same gains by installing a valve controller on the stock exhaust for couple of hundreds. You have probably noticed from the videos the M Perf exhaust doesn't sound much different than stock. $8k is a bit much for very little gains.

If you're going for looks then I get it. Just remember, if you ever wan't to revert back to stock you'll have to buy a new bumper and get it painted. I'm still trying to get used to the look of the exhaust.

I know once I do it I won't revert to stock so the bumper isn't of concern.

Overall though I'm so conflicted on what I want. My main thing is sound but I don't want obnoxious. I feel like for the most part the M perf exhaust is most likely getting misrepresented in the online videos since most of them are of cars with and OPF or if they aren't there hasn't been enough footage to really show it off.

I started off really wanting Remus but I think it might be just a bit too much. However, I suppose I could go the valve controller route with it as well and just start it up with valves closed in the morning if it really is obnoxious.

I've wanted an Akra system for years now but given that it is even more thank the M Perf exhaust for what seems like almost the same gains in sound…well M perf makes more sense there.

[iviegatron]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

I know once I do it I won't revert to stock so the bumper isn't of concern.

Overall though I'm so conflicted on what I want. My main thing is sound but I don't want obnoxious. I feel like for the most part the M perf exhaust is most likely getting misrepresented in the online videos since most of them are of cars with and OPF or if they aren't there hasn't been enough footage to really show it off.

I started off really wanting Remus but I think it might be just a bit too much. However, I suppose I could go the valve controller route with it as well and just start it up with valves closed in the morning if it really is obnoxious.

I've wanted an Akra system for years now but given that it is even more thank the M Perf exhaust for what seems like almost the same gains in sound…well M perf makes more sense there.

I believe the exhaust will sound the same regardless of OPF or not. If your car sounds a certain way without OPF that's how the M Perf exhaust will sound as well. Reason I say that is I watched a Remus video (link below) with OPF back, meaning they kept the OPF, and it sounded way better than stock. The M Perf on the other hand sounds very similar.

I feel your best bet would be to get the Remus axle back version. It retains the stock secondary cats and with the valves closed it won't be obnoxious. Add the valve controllers to it and you can get it even louder once you're out of your neighborhood. The axle back is about $2400 on X-PH's website (without tips) that's a hell of deal compared to the M exhaust. All that money you save you can invest it in other mods.

[Topcarbon]

Is there any drone from the remus?

[chicagofan00]

Well, decided to just say screw it and placed an order for the Remus cat back with the 102mm carbon tips and a VSC valve controller.

Going to go with the setup I loved from the early goings of the exhaust videos.

😬

[Seedster2]

You made the right decision. I, too, really want the Akra but the price of the catback with tips is too spicy. Not looking for some obnoxious F&F exhaust, so will likely give the Remus a look

[iviegatron]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Well, decided to just say screw it and placed an order for the Remus cat back with the 102mm carbon tips and a VSC valve controller.

Going to go with the setup I loved from the early goings of the exhaust videos.

😬

There you go. Made a decision you won't regret. Welcome to the dark side!

[M2 CCO]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Well, decided to just say screw it and placed an order for the Remus cat back with the 102mm carbon tips and a VSC valve controller.

Going to go with the setup I loved from the early goings of the exhaust videos.

😬

Which configuration did you opt for? Remus race or sport? Are you removing the resonators and secondary cats or just the resonators?

I had the Remus paired with a AA single mid on my M2C and loved it and was thinking of going Remus again for my M3CX when it arrives!