[zb2603]

Originally Posted by SaMaster14

Never once did I say anything was unfair. I'm sure those ferraris and Lamborghinis get pulled over as well. I was just surprised that I was pulled over, is all. I also felt that the officer's mentioning this "new law" (and he did say "new," so he must not have been referencing the ordinance I pulled), and then letting me go meant his pulling me over had no merit.

You asked if I knew Beverly Hills and that I "shouldn't do dumb shit" there. - I was only indicating that I've grown up in the area and drive it all the time and have never been pulled over. Please let me know where I said it wasn't "fair" ... only that I was surprised. And, as I pointed out, the law is not "you can't drive in sport mode"

Didn't know mentioning my profession was frowned upon, either. I said I would bring it up with the Bar Association out of pure curiously

I may be digging a grave here, but I think the word is humility, and I can already tell I'm not going to convince you of anything behind a keyboard. We don't know each other in person, and maybe I was quick to jump and respond to certain posts, but I'm not bringing character witnesses to bimmerpost nor do I need to prove myself to an internet persona. I won't respond to your posts calling me out directly anymore, but will of course continue any discourse on topic.

Dude you're good, you don't come off in any negative way/cocky way. I don't know why people attack other forum members personalities who they know nothing about. I live down the street and I know exactly what you are talking about.

I have a middle eastern background and I am younger so I got the same "Is tHiS yOuR dAdS cAr?" Question before. Not for exhaust but for tint.. Not saying blatantly profiled or anything but was not really the most pleasant interaction.

[Dang3r]

Originally Posted by zb2603

...I have a middle eastern background and I am younger so I got the same...

Talking about middle eastern looking persons...
Today I was standing at the crew checkin and was into uniform as I was awaring a man with said looking in an elegant black suit with expensive shoes on.
As he passes the lower middle section of the jacket was lifting short by a slight wind blow and he was carrying concealed a hand gun. As usual when encountering such situations, no policemen were around and stopping the man by myself unarmed, no way.
To jump to an safe end, because later on it was revealed that he was the accredited personal guard from a VIP and had the legal rights to wear arms concealed, what had you made for a decision at this point?
I like to remind everybody that this could happen also for a european looking person, so be careful how to judge, because this is strictly no offense against any nationality.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by zb2603

Dude you're good, you don't come off in any negative way/cocky way. I don't know why people attack other forum members personalities who they know nothing about. I live down the street and I know exactly what you are talking about.

I have a middle eastern background and I am younger so I got the same "Is tHiS yOuR dAdS cAr?" Question before. Not for exhaust but for tint.. Not saying blatantly profiled or anything but was not really the most pleasant interaction.

The stereotyping happens for a reason…..



….it's because there's some truth to it. Of course a stereotype doesn't apply to everyone in a given category, but it proves true more often than it proves to be untrue (…e.g….Asians tend to be bad drivers, blacks use the race card for any/every issue they face, etc.).

[M5Rick]

This getting pulled over in Beverly Hills in M car or Lambo w.h.y is not dissimilar to what happens in Knightsbridge W. London,near Harrods. Over here Middle Eastern guys ship their supercars over to escape the intense heat of their country and like to drive around day and night with nothing else to do with residents complaining.
Police have a field day with cars coming up as not insured, too loud at night, parking in restricted areas etc and the owners just laugh at the fines.

[SaMaster14]

Originally Posted by zb2603

Dude you're good, you don't come off in any negative way/cocky way. I don't know why people attack other forum members personalities who they know nothing about. I live down the street and I know exactly what you are talking about.

I have a middle eastern background and I am younger so I got the same "Is tHiS yOuR dAdS cAr?" Question before. Not for exhaust but for tint.. Not saying blatantly profiled or anything but was not really the most pleasant interaction.

Appreciate the post. I tried my best not to stir the pot, but realize my initial post (which I posted probably 10 mins after being pulled over and arriving home) may have been a bit of a hot take/rant.

Haven't really thought about the incident since and I haven't been pulled over since, even continuing to drive the way I normally do through that area, although I've used "efficient" mode more later at night

That being said, apparently many of the robberies in broad daylight in BH have been perpetrated by individuals in stolen BMWs, which may have prompted the initial stop and question as to whose car it was.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Dang3r

Talking about middle eastern looking persons...
Today I was standing at the crew checkin and was into uniform as I was awaring a man with said looking in an elegant black suit with expensive shoes on.
As he passes the lower middle section of the jacket was lifting short by a slight wind blow and he was carrying concealed a hand gun. As usual when encountering such situations, no policemen were around and stopping the man by myself unarmed, no way.
To jump to an safe end, because later on it was revealed that he was the accredited personal guard from a VIP and had the legal rights to wear arms concealed, what had you made for a decision at this point?
I like to remind everybody that this could happen also for a european looking person, so be careful how to judge, because this is strictly no offense against any nationality.

That wouldn't bother me at all, because I'm a gun guy and don't really care if someone is carrying a gun.

[rwheels]

Here's one for you guys. The fun really starts at 3:10; good old Portland Oregon.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by rwheels

Here's one for you guys. The fun really starts at 3:10; good old Portland Oregon.

I've never personally run into one of these "imported for a short time" scenarios, but if I wasn't satisfied with the documentation or the communication, I would cut the citation and tell the driver to deal with it in court. If it was a reckless driving or exhibition of speed situation, I'm taking the car.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I've never personally run into one of these "imported for a short time" scenarios, but if I wasn't satisfied with the documentation or the communication, I would cut the citation and tell the driver to deal with it in court. If it was a reckless driving or exhibition of speed situation, I'm taking the car.

That's one way to deal with it.

Another way would be to say, "I'm not famliar enough with that law, so here are your documents back and have a nice day."

If you don't know the law well enough to enforce it without question, then you shouldn't be writing citations about that law.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

That's one way to deal with it.

Another way would be to say, "I'm not famliar enough with that law, so here are your documents back and have a nice day."

If you don't know the law well enough to enforce it without question, then you shouldn't be writing citations about that law.

Giving documents back every time and without a viable avenue to readily access the intricacies of the federal program provides people who import these cars to have carte blanche to do whatever they want under the veil of temporary importation (…similar to the rich people who use diplomat affiliation as a way to come here and break laws, then flee back to their home country to avoid punishment).

If the matter can be cleared up in court, it's a simple fix-it citation. It's not uncommon for federal law and state law to be in conflict. Me issuing a citation for having no plates is still valid under state law. I'm not giving people passes on road going misdemeanors and felonies (…referring to the exhibition of speed/reckless driving/hit & run violations).

[vreihen16]

I was on a remote support call today with someone in Ohio. He reported that there was an officer apparently killed there, struck by a vehicle while deploying stop-sticks to stop an ongoing high-speed chase.....

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

I was on a remote support call today with someone in Ohio. He reported that there was an officer apparently killed there, struck by a vehicle while deploying stop-sticks to stop an ongoing high-speed chase.....

Deploying stop-sticks is very dangerous for the officer handling the deployment; they are manually activated. It sucks to be in a vehicle's general path of travel.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Giving documents back every time and without a viable avenue to readily access the intricacies of the federal program provides people who import these cars to have carte blanche to do whatever they want under the veil of temporary importation (…similar to the rich people who use diplomat affiliation as a way to come here and break laws, then flee back to their home country to avoid punishment).

If the matter can be cleared up in court, it's a simple fix-it citation. It's not uncommon for federal law and state law to be in conflict. Me issuing a citation for having no plates is still valid under state law. I'm not giving people passes on road going misdemeanors and felonies (…referring to the exhibition of speed/reckless driving/hit & run violations).

That car had plates and was properly registered. In Dubai, but it still counts. It is the same as if a Canadian car was driven into the US. The Canadian car is properly tagged and registered even if you aren't able to confirm that. That Dubai car was properly tagged and registered.

If that man had driven from Dubai, would that make it better?

If you write a citation that you know/assume won't stand up in court it doesn't cost you anything. But it will cost the driver time and money and it will be an added burden to the courts.

My point is this: if you, as a law enforcement officer, don't know the law, then you shouldn't be even allowed to write a ticket for it.

[Sedan_Clan]

Ummmm, let's just say a suspected elder abuse call turned into a 300 WIC call when four kids were found playing around in shit…….literally. Dog/cat urine and feces everywhere, feces on the wall, etc. It was disgusting…….and the kids were happy. They didn't know any better. The scene is something I can't even articulate in a way where it fully illustrates the gravity of the scene. I feel so dirty.

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Ummmm, let's just say a suspected elder abuse call turned into a 300 WIC call when four kids were found playing around in shit…….literally. Dog/cat urine and feces everywhere, feces on the wall, etc. It was disgusting…….and the kids were happy. They didn't know any better. The scene is something I can't even articulate in a way where it fully illustrates the gravity of the scene. I feel so dirty.

I can STILL smell a rental my dad had me clean up for one of his clients.

50-gal Trash bags 2-3 deep in the kitchen, all with shitty diapers. None of the bags were closed

[Dang3r]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

That wouldn't bother me at all, because I'm a gun guy and don't really care if someone is carrying a gun.

Me too, but you cant convert US-habits to Germany and our strict gun laws.
If someone carrys a gun at an Airport here and is not accompanied by the police and/or shows an open visible exception... that could lead you into serious trouble.

[Lady Jane]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Ummmm, let's just say a suspected elder abuse call turned into a 300 WIC call when four kids were found playing around in shit…….literally. Dog/cat urine and feces everywhere, feces on the wall, etc. It was disgusting…….and the kids were happy. They didn't know any better. The scene is something I can't even articulate in a way where it fully illustrates the gravity of the scene. I feel so dirty.

Something similar was described to me when the drug team did a bust at a grow house. Feces all over the place etc... And they showed-up at the ER with two little boys, twins about three years old of mixed race and blue eyes. They were covered in a blanket but all they had on was a dirty diaper. And all that time, they were happy and smiling and everyone fell in love with them. We had pediatrics come over to bathe them and give them clean diapers and PJs until Child Services could be reached.

[Sedan_Clan]

Today has been a day. We just got into a shooting. Thankfully I wasn't injured nor were any of my partners.

[Dino GT]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Today has been a day. We just got into a shooting. Thankfully I wasn't injured nor were any of my partners.

Glad you're okay. Did you get the son(s) of ....?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Dino GT

Glad you're okay. Did you get the son(s) of ....?

He's in the hospital, but he's not dead at this time.

[Samurai of 2day]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Today has been a day. We just got into a shooting. Thankfully I wasn't injured nor were any of my partners.

Keep each other safe out there.

[rwheels]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Today has been a day. We just got into a shooting. Thankfully I wasn't injured nor were any of my partners.

But seriously, thankfully you guys came out of it okay.