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      01-20-2021, 06:46 PM   #23
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The M4 obviously has no Hofmeister kink. Yes the majority of the BMW range does but the new 4 series as you can clearly see does NOT. This just shows that you read something & are quoting it but have no actual idea what it is your talking about & to make it worse your now arguing about it & still don't know what it is.

So here you go I made it easy for you, do some research & learn what everyone else on this site already knows...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofmeister_kink

Also If your going to get upset every time your wrong & someone corrects you, you should probably lay off the videos or your going to be upset an awful lot.
Honestly i actually appreciate you taking the time to watch my video's and give some feed back. They are harder to make then you think. I just felt the way you said it was kinda hateful but i still appreciate the feedback. I do learn new things.

That article does say it's on modern BMW's.

I found this article from BMW Blog.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/03/29/a...fmeister-kink/

It says every car has it in its own unique way.

Anyway thanks for taking the time to watch, provide your feedback.
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      01-20-2021, 06:49 PM   #24
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The M4 obviously has no Hofmeister kink. Yes the majority of the BMW range does but the new 4 series as you can clearly see does NOT. This just shows that you read something & are quoting it but have no actual idea what it is your talking about & to make it worse your now arguing about it & still don't know what it is.

So here you go I made it easy for you, do some research & learn what everyone else on this site already knows...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofmeister_kink

Also If your going to get upset every time your wrong & someone corrects you, you should probably lay off the videos or your going to be upset an awful lot.
Didn't one of the designers say some sort of BS in a video somewhere that the line down from the side "vent" and along the door was an inverted kink? That and/or the corner of the c-pillar was a rotated kink if you drink enough?
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      01-20-2021, 06:59 PM   #25
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The distortion on the video makes this borderline unwatchable
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      01-20-2021, 07:37 PM   #27
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The distortion on the video makes this borderline unwatchable
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The distortion on the video makes this borderline unwatchable
What distortion?
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ouch man, that hurts. Thought these forums were hate free
How was i wrong about the hofmeister kink?
You're joking, right? Forums (and social media in general) are mostly hate and negativity.
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      01-20-2021, 08:36 PM   #29
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The distortion on the video makes this borderline unwatchable
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The distortion on the video makes this borderline unwatchable
What distortion?
Lens distortion, looks as if a wide angle or fish eye lens was used for filming? I am trying to get a picture of the proportions of the car and the distortion makes it difficult. Its fine, I prob have to see it in person to really get an idea
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Where are the driving reviews??
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" The M4 has the classic Hofmeister kink".... !? Really ?.
Sorry but car salesman need to just post videos with no commentary, the moment they open their mouth the charade becomes apparent. You own an E36 & work for BMW but don't know what the Hofmeister kink is....hmmmm.
I can't speak to the OP, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since he owns an E36 M3.

But in my experience most salespeople, especially BMW ones, are not BMW enthusiasts. Most probably haven't even worked for the company very long. They just want to push volume.

It's always funny watching BMW salespeople draw blanks when you ask them about things like steering, handling, etc. Their responses are usually "there's a sport mode for that" or "there's an X5M for that."
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The distortion on the video makes this borderline unwatchable
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The distortion on the video makes this borderline unwatchable
What distortion?
Lens distortion, looks as if a wide angle or fish eye lens was used for filming? I am trying to get a picture of the proportions of the car and the distortion makes it difficult. Its fine, I prob have to see it in person to really get an idea
Oh yea! I filmed on GoPro for the M4. Going to upgrade to a proper camera soon.
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Where are the driving reviews??
Cant drive the pre-production cars
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" The M4 has the classic Hofmeister kink".... !? Really ?.
Sorry but car salesman need to just post videos with no commentary, the moment they open their mouth the charade becomes apparent. You own an E36 & work for BMW but don't know what the Hofmeister kink is....hmmmm.
I can't speak to the OP, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since he owns an E36 M3.

But in my experience most salespeople, especially BMW ones, are not BMW enthusiasts. Most probably haven't even worked for the company very long. They just want to push volume.

It's always funny watching BMW salespeople draw blanks when you ask them about things like steering, handling, etc.
You are correct. Most aren't enthusiasts like me. I try my harder to create this content in my spare time since its not actually my job.
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I am just surprised (or maybe I shouldn’t be) at the snarky comments towards the guy. Thanks for the video, I think the design is ugly but appreciate the effort you put towards making and posting this.
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I am just surprised (or maybe I shouldn't be) at the snarky comments towards the guy. Thanks for the video, I think the design is ugly but appreciate the effort you put towards making and posting this.
I agree.

Thanks for posting!
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I am just surprised (or maybe I shouldn't be) at the snarky comments towards the guy. Thanks for the video, I think the design is ugly but appreciate the effort you put towards making and posting this.
I agree.

Thanks for posting!
Ditto!
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Thanks for the videos. Don't let some of the comments put you off. It's great to see G8x content and most of us appreciate all the effort you put in
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You are correct. Most aren't enthusiasts like me. I try my harder to create this content in my spare time since its not actually my job.
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos for us to see, there’s a lot of people who do actually appreciate that. Not everyone has as much knowledge as some people clearly claim to have. Don’t listen to the criticism, great job. I personally love the car and can’t wait to receive mine in the coming months.
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OP no hard feelings and thanks for the effort on putting new content.

I guess BMW marketing wants to try and see a Hofmeister kink on the 4 series while Dukec himself in an interview was destroying it and said that every roof line of every BMWs look the same because of the kink and he wants to change things... that's why he just didn't put one on this 4 series i guess. Just look at the angle vs g20 / 80.

I guess if you want to be neutral, research what has always been a Hofmeister kink on all BMWs (till now), the unique angle it has and look if it's there on the new 4 series by yourself ... and you'll see through the marketing BS.
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Sorry about the hate - people often have legitimate points but poor delivery here. Video looks good to me. Keep up the hustle
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The M3 Video is actually brilliant ! Awesome camera and stunning camerwork, i like it
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I am just surprised (or maybe I shouldn't be) at the snarky comments towards the guy. Thanks for the video, I think the design is ugly but appreciate the effort you put towards making and posting this.
I agree.

Thanks for posting!
Me too ... for a lot of the seemingly hate coming back their messaging maybe subjective or factual correct but the delivery could have been better.

Personally, I am not keen on the new model but I do appreciate the effort you made. Keep doing what you do; you will get better with experience and feedback.
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