[Dave07997S]

Originally Posted by deceptiv.M3

Yet another reason not to get one - these are going to go for absurd discounts before the end of the year, I would be hesitant to lock in a 3 year deal at those numbers when people will be paying 200-300 beneath that within or after that first year.

This^^^^^

[m20e3087]

Just spoke to one dealer, they are charging 5K over MSRP, on allocation. LOL. My build MSRP was 84,500

[BMdoubleUTIFUL]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

Just spoke to one dealer, they are charging 5K over MSRP, on allocation. LOL. My build MSRP was 84,500

Please tell me where this is so I don't waste a trip

[Salespunk]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

Just spoke to one dealer, they are charging 5K over MSRP, on allocation. LOL. My build MSRP was 84,500

The deal is only $400 more per month than my F90 M5 that had a sticker price of $125K. Seems perfectly reasonable

[m20e3087]

Originally Posted by BMdoubleUTIFUL

Please tell me where this is so I don't waste a trip

Delray Beach

[m20e3087]

Originally Posted by Salespunk

The deal is only $400 more per month than my F90 M5 that had a sticker price of $125K. Seems perfectly reasonable

I know right. Told him someone will pay, but it ain't me.

[Transfer]

IMO $80-90k MSRP G8x must lease (zero down) at <$1000/mo before tax and preferably <$900/mo before tax if I'm going to consider it.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by snareman

Check out the amortization schedule here and compare it to where you'd be in 3 years with lease payments. If I go with an 80k car and put zero down with the 1.9% BMW loan rate, the payments are obviously higher, but I'm down to $33k at the end of 3 years and I'm sure the car will be worth more than that at that point. I'm making about 15k selling my current M4 from a similar situation. You shouldn't put anything down on a lease, but obviously if you can put something down on a loan you'll be even more ahead of the game. I always lease, but this has me reconsidering it.

https://www.amortization-calc.com/au...an-calculator/

Depending on state, taxes could be a major influence. In my state I pay $8k tax up front on an $80k car purchase but only ~$3800 tax over 3 years if I lease. I still agree though that if getting a G8x before lease deals are any good, that purchase/finance is the way to go.

[Bavarian_Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by OriginalFake

You realize this is typically how the lease numbers look when these things are brand new, right?

I guess people are new 😂😂. I remember the days where Ms never got below 1k

[Salespunk]

It won't make any sense to lease for the first six months if this tracks similar to other M car releases. You are better off purchasing if you are going to be an early adopter. Even then, the lack of real discounting from most dealers is going to make it painful. That is the price of being first though.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by Transfer

IMO $80-90k MSRP G8x must lease (zero down) at <$1000/mo before tax and preferably <$900/mo before tax if I'm going to consider it.

That's going to take a lot of discounting, residual rating and money factoring to get to those numbers. I'm not sure they will get there. I didn't get there on my 2018 M4, well into the life cycle.

[m20e3087]

Those who have ordered and leasing, did you lock in a current mf or the month you take delivery of the car? Or Whichever mf they are offering that month?

[m20e3087]

How's this deal.

MSRP 81,645.

36mo, 12K, and $1100mo with $1500 due at signing. It's not final yet, but my SA is working on it. Tax, tag, fees etc are all included.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by m20e3087

How's this deal.

MSRP 81,645.

36mo, 12K, and $1100mo with $1500 due at signing. It's not final yet, but my SA is working on it. Tax, tag, fees etc are all included.

What's the selling price, residual and MF?

[BMdoubleUTIFUL]

Originally Posted by snareman

What's the selling price, residual and MF?

Also tax tag and fees paid up front or all factored into the monthly payments?

[m20e3087]

Originally Posted by BMdoubleUTIFUL

Also tax tag and fees paid up front or all factored into the monthly payments?

Yes everything included. They are discounting 4649. And residual is 44,905. But they want 4K up front. So offered only 1500 upfront. Still waiting.

[JTO24]

Originally Posted by Bavarian_Enthusiast

I guess people are new 😂😂. I remember the days where Ms never got below 1k

That must have been the e46 days, and earlier, because my 2013 e92 M3 was $723 per month and 2015 F80 was $829 with zero cap cost reduction (also no MSDs) for 36mo/10k mi. MF was low and Residual was strong on both. However, the dealers were dealing as both selling prices were slightly above invoice. The lease deals always seem to be poor for the initial launch of M cars... it's the price one pays to be the first on the block with one.

I'm only interested in a manual G80 base, and I'm in no rush to be first; so I'll wait until those leases dip into the $800s, which I'm guessing will happen within the next 12 months or so.

[DecemberStorm]

For the Canadians around here... got some words on lease rates for Jan. Odd cuz no cars are even at dealers yet, but I suspect they will stay the same for Feb and Mar

36 months 55% residual
48 months 47% residual
5.99% rate across

finance rate 4.99% up to 84 months, same with balloon financing

this...is... bad LOL I guess the residual is fair game relative to competition but I find it odd it's set lower than G22 and F87. The real killer is the 6% rate, hope Feb and Mar programs show better but I doubt it

[W288SH]

What are people paying for G8x now vs MSRP?

[J3BMWM]

Getting $1,000.00 off in Florida

[GOLFFRR]

Originally Posted by W288SH

What are people paying for G8x now vs MSRP?

I think the better question would be what's the whole deal look like. % off MSRP is just part of the deal.

finance? is the rate marked up?
lease? is the MF marked up?

what fees? do you have an allocation.

happy hunting everyone!

[DecemberStorm]

4.5% off MSRP

unfortunately financing or leasing is not negotiable in Canada and you are at the mercy of BMWFS. The January program look atrociously bad: 4.99% finance rate, and 5.99% lease rate with 58% residual 3y / 50% 4y both on 16k km a year.

Ideally by the time people take delivery in March, the rates drop without also hurting residual. <4% lease rate coupled with near 60% residual for 3y term would make for decent lease economics.