F1 2021: Brazilian GP - São Paulo (Nov 14)

GuidoK · 11-14-2021, 12:38 PM

And Checo takes the fastest lap.
I thought why wait that long, but if he came in earlier, BOT was free to come in also.

e90335e36m3 · 11-14-2021, 12:39 PM

And this my friends…as fun as this sport is…is a joke from a competition standpoint.

M5Rick · 11-14-2021, 12:40 PM

...yes Checo got the FL!

TheBingoBalls · 11-14-2021, 12:40 PM

This was ridiculous. I don't think I've seen the W12 this quick all season. We've seen bursts here and and there but the quickness was never sustained. This was something else.

Mr Pete · 11-14-2021, 12:42 PM

I know on some circuits, the Mercedes was a bit faster on the straights throughout the season. But where in the hell did this Mercedes speed come from all of a sudden? Great race today nonetheless. Ham drove fantastic today, amazing

M5Rick · 11-14-2021, 12:42 PM

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This was ridiculous. I don't think I've seen the W12 this quick all season. We've seen bursts here and but the quickness was never sustained. This was something else.

Indeed it was like a last chance saloon bonus with the new PU.

________ · 11-14-2021, 12:47 PM

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…and that's about wraps up the WDC. Barring some catastrophic start, RB/VER will get the points they need to pretty much wrap up the title this year.

Weird season to end this era of F1. We will see what happens next year - will Mercedes' decision to focus more on the new car/regulations this year pay off?

This didn't age well…

Up… wow lol

///M Power-Belgium · 11-14-2021, 12:47 PM

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As you say Max didn't have a chance with Ham's boosted PU,hope Checo got the FL.

Checo got the FL .MAX is leading now with 14 points ..

HAM's Merc is just WOW ! He came from P10 !

The Mercedes Warp-Speed will be hard to beat in the next races .

HONDA has some work to do .

Killed by Death · 11-14-2021, 12:48 PM

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As you say Max didn't have a chance with Ham's boosted PU,hope Checo got the FL.

Yep, I'm sick of hearing MB isn't the fastest car anymore. HAM was bowing people off the road even before DRS opened up on the first few laps.

Poiseuille · 11-14-2021, 12:49 PM

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///M Power-Belgium · 11-14-2021, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GuidoK

And Checo takes the fastest lap.
I thought why wait that long, but if he came in earlier, BOT was free to come in also.

This !

///M Power-Belgium · 11-14-2021, 12:51 PM

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Yeah just that my friend , but with 1000 + ponies today !

///M Power-Belgium · 11-14-2021, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Yep, I'm sick of hearing MB isn't the fastest car anymore. HAM was bowing people off the road even before DRS opened up on the first few laps.

Indeed . It was like the other cars ran in slow-motion ...

M5Rick · 11-14-2021, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Checo got the FL .MAX is leading now with 14 points ..

HAM's Merc is just WOW ! He came from P10 !

The Mercedes Warp-Speed will be hard to beat in the next races .

HONDA has some work to do .

RB have to put protest in against the Merc rear wing.

Wakka · 11-14-2021, 01:06 PM

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....what a childish response.
Don't you think now is the time you should act more like an adult?
Everyone here has their favorite driver and team and discussions can get heated, but no one here reverts to this kind of language.
You're the only one.

And Wakka who comes in her to stir the pot with his dick and circle jerk obsessions

Haha so salty. Sometimes the truth hurts mate 😘

Either way since I said that seems this thread has become substantially better. Great race from both max and Lewis today imo.

________ · 11-14-2021, 01:10 PM

Let's close the thread:

Sir Lewis got disqualified from qualifying due to technical issues with his wing.
Launched from 20th place on Sprint Race.
Finished 5th.
Got a 5-grid penalty for replacing his engine. Launched at 10th.

Won the race.

About sums it up? See you next race. This was a truly enjoyable one from many angles and battles.

M5Rick · 11-14-2021, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Yep, I'm sick of hearing MB isn't the fastest car anymore. HAM was bowing people off the road even before DRS opened up on the first few laps.

That car ought to be torn apart by the stewards there's no way it can be legal.

Leclerc got a chess win against Sainz today to stop the rot but the gap they were behind the leading four of 50 odd seconds is a mountain!

F87source · 11-14-2021, 01:15 PM

It's funny how when Lewis wins with a fast car it's all the car, but when max wins and the rb16b is multiple tenths of a second faster per lap quicker than the w12 it's all max... The favoritism is unreal.

I have to give credit where it's due, Lewis did some absolutely fantastic moves today, even when he faked the turn in to get max to go defensive setting up the subsequent over take. Beautiful moves by Lewis, I see why people consider him the goat.

Steeler · 11-14-2021, 01:23 PM

Good race today between a good racer and the GOAT.
Advantage MB with the next 3 races at fast tracks.

Carry on.

shoei · 11-14-2021, 01:53 PM

WTF is in that W12?!!

F87source · 11-14-2021, 01:54 PM

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It's funny how when Lewis wins with a fast car it's all the car, but when max wins and the rb16b is multiple tenths of a second faster per lap quicker than the w12 it's all max... The favoritism is unreal.

I have to give credit where it's due, Lewis did some absolutely fantastic moves today, even when he faked the turn in to get max to go defensive setting up the subsequent over take. Beautiful moves by Lewis, I see why people consider him the goat.

Don't forget in Mexico the rb16b was so fricken fast even checo was catching Lewis yet max was given the credit and called the best driver.

When the w12 goes "fast" then it's all the car. Yet Bottas even with a new engine (is when Mercedes is able to turn things up to 11 and get all this speed) is unable to pass in traffic every single time. Whereas with both Perez and Verstappen the rb16b has been shown it's able to pass in traffic without issue (Perez even did a pit lane start at one point this year and was able to still finish high up). This shows that even with the speed boost the w12 is inherently affected by dirty air more than the rb16b and is extremely difficult to overtake with when following. This shows how skilled Lewis was today and during the sprint race to essentially go from last to first, I truly see why people consider him the goat.

I normally don't ever get into driver debate but the one sided favoritism of max is absolutely unreal, so I had to give an unbiased point of view from the outside and from a person who only really cares about the engineering vs. is a huge fan of certain drivers.

TheBingoBalls · 11-14-2021, 01:58 PM

I guess we sort of know why Mercedes went with the engine swap now - there would be no issue pushing it to the limit without having to worry about damage for the remainder of the season. Assuming VER and HAM would be 1 or 2, Mercedes would have to win the final 3 races to win the drivers championship.

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M5Rick General 61007 Rep 19,824 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Southern England iTrader: (0)	...yes Checo got the FL!
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TheBingoBalls Brigadier General 3833 Rep 4,668 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 F36 BMW 440i x ... [0.00]	This was ridiculous. I don't think I've seen the W12 this quick all season. We've seen bursts here and and there but the quickness was never sustained. This was something else.
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Mr Pete Major 1617 Rep 1,002 Posts Drives: 997 GT3 4.1, Golf R (daily) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: AZ iTrader: (1)	I know on some circuits, the Mercedes was a bit faster on the straights throughout the season. But where in the hell did this Mercedes speed come from all of a sudden? Great race today nonetheless. Ham drove fantastic today, amazing
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________ ________ 4160 Rep 2,301 Posts Drives: ________ Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: ________ iTrader: (0)	Let's close the thread: Sir Lewis got disqualified from qualifying due to technical issues with his wing. Launched from 20th place on Sprint Race. Finished 5th. Got a 5-grid penalty for replacing his engine. Launched at 10th. Won the race. About sums it up? See you next race. This was a truly enjoyable one from many angles and battles.
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F87source Major General 7314 Rep 7,473 Posts Drives: Bmw M2 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: . iTrader: (1)	It's funny how when Lewis wins with a fast car it's all the car, but when max wins and the rb16b is multiple tenths of a second faster per lap quicker than the w12 it's all max... The favoritism is unreal. I have to give credit where it's due, Lewis did some absolutely fantastic moves today, even when he faked the turn in to get max to go defensive setting up the subsequent over take. Beautiful moves by Lewis, I see why people consider him the goat. __________________ Click on the link below to see a compiled list of every review I have ever written: https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...2#post30368242
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TheBingoBalls Brigadier General 3833 Rep 4,668 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 F36 BMW 440i x ... [0.00]	I guess we sort of know why Mercedes went with the engine swap now - there would be no issue pushing it to the limit without having to worry about damage for the remainder of the season. Assuming VER and HAM would be 1 or 2, Mercedes would have to win the final 3 races to win the drivers championship.
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