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I only asked for a photo. 🤷*♂️ What am I trying to garner?.. A side by side visual.🤷*♂️ I have no motivations or any intent to stir the pot.. chill.😏 I own an M2 cs and I am genuinely interested in on hand comparison since @silber is an owner of both and my dealer hasn't gotten one yet here in Portland. Thanks. |
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I'll check that post. Thanks for sharing the link..... And, no I didn't buy the m2 cs because of size alone.. We're done here. |
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I find this heavy handed corporate stuff to try and control dealers kind of strange. I don't know why March 9th has to be the magic date. They could pull that date back and not force dealers to play this weird game with customers. Or if it just has to be March 9th, hold the cars until the week after. I wonder who is paying inventory costs for these cars now sitting in dealer lots waiting to be delivered. |
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03-03-2021, 05:52 AM | #144 | |
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They give everyone a launch date, it's their right to put their stuff in the market when they decide. Of course they deliever a few weeks sooner the cars which are build, there is ton's of things going on in the background. Then it is just fair that the costumer's who recieved a delievery for the launch date get their car at this date, and not that some Dealers just give the cars earlier and some not. Imagine a couple of costumer getting the iPhone 2 weeks earlier than it's launch date...or also a video game or whatever. People would go nuts... So even though i'm very happy for the owner who got the car already I totally do understand BMW going enrage at dealer who already handet out the car. |
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03-03-2021, 10:09 AM | #145 | |
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The cars are relatively bulletproof but I had my washer hose replaced a few times under warranty (it would crack in half at the hinge of the frunk from what I assume was using the frunk frequently in cold weather) and the upper area of the driver's door panel was beginning to delaminate from the door panel and again was replaced under warranty (somewhat common on 991/981 models). Overall, the 981 was a blast and if I could afford a new 911, I'd be in one. However, it is more expensive to maintain unless you DIY.
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Our Cayenne with 65k on odo. 3x AWD transfer case @ $5k each. 1x fuel pump @ $1500 1x valve cover gasket @ $1800 1x central locking actuator @ $1500 2x brake jobs @ $3k each. 1x battery @ $1k if I recall right of the price. Scheduled maintaince @ average $500 a year. 1x Cardan shaft coming up @ $2700 This is likely more total cost than all my 10+ BMWs combined at similar odo readings. Some of this were warranty repairs but bullet proof she ain’t. Still love the car though. Love hurts. 911 are supposedly more reliable but around 2x the cost for every service and repair that is needed vs. the Cayenne. Last edited by solstice; 03-03-2021 at 10:45 AM.. |
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The Cayenne is an Audi with more expensive clothes on though isn't it? Little different from the 911.
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The 958 is based on a VW (Touareg) but most problem parts I experienced are Porsche specific...The 911 is different but it ain’t all good. Open the “hood” on a 911 and you quickly understand why services are so expensive. For example try to change spark plugs on a 911 Turbo vs a Cayenne and tell me how that was
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I just test drove the first M3 comp standard seats at my local dealership. Coming from 6MT f80 with speed cloth. Enough has been said already but my 2 cents:
-g80 standard seats are very comfortable, much more so than the f80 speed cloth -g80 did not feel bigger or heavier to me -g80 puts power to the ground a lot better than f80; felt planted and composed -g80 definitely has a different sound; deeper grumble and quieter inside the cabin than f80 -g80 suspension was softer in sport than f80 in comfort; handled bumps a lot better |
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I think what's worth noting is that the F80 was 183 inches long, while the F10 M5 was 193 inches long - so a 10 inch difference. With the G80, being 189 inches long and F90 being 195 inches long, the difference in size between the M3 and M5 has shrunk by almost half this generation. As another data point, the E60 M5 was 191 inches long - only 2 inches longer than the G80. I just now realized that both the power and the weight of the G80 are very, very similar to the E60 (my math says they should be within 100 lbs on the lighter side of each car). Just reinforces that the M2 is the best M3, and the M3 and M4 are the best M5 and M6.
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G80 with 6mt and RWD is 3,740 pounds. CF Buckets saves an additional 21 pounds, so I'm at 3,721 pounds.
F80 in manual was 3,509 pounds. Weight gain is 212 pounds (6%). Not great but it could be far worse.
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