01-19-2022, 05:32 PM | #67 |
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15k is crazy!
I'm definitely grateful to have no markup and sold at MSRP. Was 3rd on the waitlist but got a production number 2 weeks later. 2.5 months from production to delivery. If you're in norcal, you can try the dealer I went to. Not sure what the wait list is but PM me if you were looking to order. |
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01-19-2022, 05:46 PM | #68 | |
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01-19-2022, 05:50 PM | #69 | |
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MY22 base price was hiked by $1k and other models by $200 this month. I wouldnt be surprised if there is a significant bump for MY23 or a small one even before that. |
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01-19-2022, 06:08 PM | #70 | |
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I don't know about you, but I don't want an aftermarket GPS tracker on my $85k+ vehicle. They lost a sale because they wouldn't wave the add on. I don't need the car now or ever, so I walked. I could care less if others are willing to pay $5k-$10k above, it's still idiotic and I won't partake in that. I'd rather pick up an Emira next year for that kind of money. We all know there is a production issue, I never said there was not, but that's only one variable. Dealers make far more money in the service department than the sales department and a dealership can stay afloat on service alone. If consumers stop paying stupid high prices dealers are forced to drop prices to move inventory regardless of what disruptions happen on the production side. But hey, you do you. |
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01-19-2022, 06:11 PM | #71 |
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Yeah it's definitely not hard to find a MSRP dealer assuming you're fine with waiting. I've probably contacted approximately 50 dealers and only 3-4 had a guaranteed allocation with an over MSRP price + another 4-5 dealers that had no allocation and were still asking for above sticker.
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01-19-2022, 06:16 PM | #72 | |
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They are try to get you in. Because they can not sell the vehicle without customer in the dealership. Then they will tell you, dealer aftermarket add ons or mark up. Wherever you got that quote below MSRP, Good Luck! |
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01-19-2022, 06:37 PM | #74 | ||
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Supply & Demand As long as there are supply chain issues and constant delays , dealers will up charge and consumers will pay because of limited supply. The few remaining MSRP deals will soon vanish and 25K ADM will be the new normal nationwide very soon. Your logic only applies when supply is high and demand is low , that's how I was able to get 12K off on a brand new 18' LCI F82 in 2017. I also don't believe in paying over sticker , shit I don't even know what it's like to pay anything over BELOW INVOICE until I ordered a G80 but in these times , things are different. |
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01-19-2022, 06:54 PM | #75 | |
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I really walked away from my deal over principle. It wasn't the fact that it would have effectively been $1k over sticker, I could have lived with that given the current market conditions. It was the fact this dealer lied about "removing it when I take delivery of the vehicle" then backtracking when I asked for that in writing. They would have been better not to list the add on as a line item in my quote at all and just rolled it in as a $1k market adjustment. I would have bought the car had that been the case. But including StarGard as a mandatory add on because it is "installed on every vehicle we sell" and my knowing the true motive is so they can track the vehicle if they need to repossess it just rubbed me the wrong way. I found it borderline offensive. We as BMW owners deserve better treatment and should not tolerate bait and switch tactics. The ownership experience is about more than just the car, the service and overall treatment of customers is just as important as the driving experience. |
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01-20-2022, 12:44 AM | #76 |
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you're right, and dealers just use MSRP as an excuse to collect your deposit. who knows how long you will wait until you are granted with an allocation. it's all empty and invalid promises.
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01-20-2022, 01:56 AM | #77 | |
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I hopped on an allocation which was days away from flipping to 150 end of Dec , and even that just got delayed till god knows when. So I can only imagine the wait to even get an allocation. |
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01-20-2022, 02:33 AM | #79 |
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Absolutely everything is marked up in this market. Get used to it. It's inflation and it will never go away. We say the price is high but in 5-10 years this will be considered low. Times are changing as must the way we think.
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01-20-2022, 02:42 AM | #80 |
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Its bad. But if you think it's that bad then you should be buying a Honda
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01-20-2022, 05:06 AM | #83 | ||
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Up, I would be of the same mindset, you may just have to wait in line a little Bit which is fine It was noted in this thread that BMW are selling more M cars than ever, so it isn't a chip shortage issue it seems. It's more like demand is just outstripping supply. The world is awash with money, liquidity and cheap credit M division sales in 2021 were higher than 2019 so they are moving volume, it's just demand is crazy and people have the money to try skip the line and some are willing to pay that mark up to get the car now rather than wait |
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01-20-2022, 12:16 PM | #84 |
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BMW dealership in Long Island, NY is asking for 20k over MSRP if you live in long island and 30k over msrp if you live out of the area. LOL
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01-20-2022, 12:41 PM | #86 | |
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I completely agree. I’d rather walk than surrendering my money this way. My dealer reached out to me to buy my car and get me a new M3 by June without any markups but I declined. Simply why the rush.
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